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[edit]@Shubhsamant09 The automatic archiver is set to always leave 4 threads regardless of age. This is generally good, since people can then easily see "what was the latest things discussed here, then?" Please don't empty talkpages like you did. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:15, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2025
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I request for where it says "African artisans, farmers, and warriors" to be changed to "African slaves" and where it says "They were sold as slaves to European colonists" to be changed to "They were sold to European colonists", so the wording would be better. ~2025-33170-53 (talk) 00:53, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done. They were not slaves before being sold, so no. NotJamestack (talk) 01:28, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Well, it can be argued that they were, but the current "when African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors to European slave traders, who transported them across the Atlantic to the Western Hemisphere." works anyway, since it doesn't dispute that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- They were enslaved by other Africans before being sold. ~2025-33235-14 (talk) 07:51, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- And the current writing makes that fairly clear. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:30, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- They were enslaved by other Africans before being sold. ~2025-33235-14 (talk) 07:51, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- They had to be slaves in order to be sold by African slave traders to European slave traders. ~2025-33235-14 (talk) 07:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- African slave traders enslaved them and sold them to European slave traders. ~2025-33235-14 (talk) 07:54, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Even when sold by African slave traders, they were still enslaved "African artisans, farmers, and warriors" who were sold as slaves. So I agree with the others, no to your request. Lova Falk (talk) 11:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Well, it can be argued that they were, but the current "when African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors to European slave traders, who transported them across the Atlantic to the Western Hemisphere." works anyway, since it doesn't dispute that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:15, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 November 2025
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I will like for you to change the African American population to 51,600,000 million for 2025. ~2025-33536-40 (talk) 05:29, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Seercat3160 (talk) 05:30, 16 November 2025 (UTC)
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 November 2025
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I request for where it says "sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors" to be changed to "sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors as slaves" please. I also request for where it says "They were sold as slaves to European colonists" to be changed to "They were sold to European colonists" please. ~2025-35591-57 (talk) 19:06, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done: No reason was given for the proposed change, which seems to be mere tinkering with the wording without any actual improvement. Day Creature (talk) 05:05, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- The reason is that the African artisans, farmers, and warriors were already sold as slaves by African slave traders, so the sentence "They were sold as slaves to European colonists" is redundant and should be changed to "They were sold to European colonists" instead. ~2025-35813-83 (talk) 11:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
- Will somebody reply? ~2025-36367-21 (talk) 22:07, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- If you don't get a reply here that satisfies you, you can consider WP:APPNOTE or WP:DR. WP:XC may be of interest. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Will somebody reply? ~2025-36367-21 (talk) 22:07, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- The reason is that the African artisans, farmers, and warriors were already sold as slaves by African slave traders, so the sentence "They were sold as slaves to European colonists" is redundant and should be changed to "They were sold to European colonists" instead. ~2025-35813-83 (talk) 11:59, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 November 2025
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Change: • Change the article title from “African Americans” to “Black Americans.” • In all relevant sections, update wording so that “Black Americans” is used first, with “African Americans” acknowledged as an alternate term. • Do not remove any information—only update terminology to reflect modern usage and clearly distinguish Black Americans as a lineage group.
Rationale / Justification: 1. Modern self-identification and terminology preference: Reliable surveys show that many Black adults in the United States either prefer the term Black or do not strongly prefer African American. A 2021 Gallup poll found that 58% of Black adults said the term used “does not matter,” and among those who did have a preference, slightly more preferred “Black” (52%) over “African American” (44%). Gallup. “No Preferred Racial Term Among Black and Hispanic Adults.” 2021. https://news.gallup.com/poll/353000/no-preferred-racial-term-among-black-hispanic-adults.aspx 2. Academic research shows near-even preference and widespread use of “Black”: A peer-reviewed study in Public Opinion Quarterly reports that Americans of African descent are “nearly equally divided” in preferring “Black” versus “African American.” Sigelman, Lee et al. “Support for Black and African American Identification.” Public Opinion Quarterly 69, no. 3 (2005): 429–456. https://academic.oup.com/poq/article/69/3/429/1859729 3. National Survey of American Life (NSAL) identity data: Analysis of NSAL data shows that more Black Americans self-identify as “Black” (42%) than as “African American” (32%). Jackson, James S., et al. “Black Identity and U.S.-Born Blacks.” University of Michigan, Institute for Social Research. https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/60847/hacki_1.pdf 4. Preserving lineage-specific terminology: With increasing immigration from Africa, the Caribbean, Latin America, and elsewhere, scholars and community organizations emphasize the need to maintain terminology that distinguishes the specific lineage group historically rooted in the United States. “Black American” is widely used in contemporary discourse, research, and media to refer specifically to this group without implying recent immigrant ancestry. Pew Research Center. “Black Americans’ Views of Black Identity and Black Pride.” 2022. https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2022/04/14/black-americans-views-of-black-identity-and-black-pride/ 5. Not removing existing historical or cultural content: This request does not ask for removal of the term “African American,” nor its historical, political, and cultural context. It only asks that the page reflect current, verifiable naming trends by using “Black Americans” first, while still thoroughly discussing “African American” within the article. 6. Clarity for readers: Using “Black Americans” as the primary term improves clarity by distinguishing U.S.-lineage Black Americans from other Black populations living in the United States, whose histories and identities differ. This aligns with modern sociological and demographic distinctions.
Proposed Edit: • Change the article title from African Americans to Black Americans. • In the lead section, update the first sentence to: “Black Americans (also referred to as African Americans) are…” while preserving and expanding historical usage of the term African American in the article body. ~2025-35869-71 (talk) 21:35, 23 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done: to request a page move follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves. I would also point out that there has been a previous move discussion proposing the same change which consensus was against at the time. IsCat (talk) 12:55, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 December 2025
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I request for where it says "African slave traders sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors to European slave traders" to be changed to "African slave traders captured and sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors as slaves to European slave traders" and I also request for where it says "They were sold as slaves to European colonists" to be changed to "They were sold to European colonists", so the wording would be better. ~2025-38397-58 (talk) 23:46, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
Not done. This was already discussed multiple times before. Look at the above requests. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 23:53, 3 December 2025 (UTC)
- This edit request is different to the last. African slave traders captured and sold African artisans, farmers, and warriors as slaves. ~2025-38352-49 (talk) 00:14, 4 December 2025 (UTC)
- NotJamestack, will you reply to my response? ~2025-38760-52 (talk) 20:49, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- Once again, discussed multiple times before. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 20:55, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
- This edit request is different and I want it to be treated differently too. ~2025-40216-37 (talk) 20:47, 12 December 2025 (UTC)
- Once again, discussed multiple times before. NotJamestack (✉️|📝) 20:55, 5 December 2025 (UTC)
