Talk:Baltic states

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Unofficial?

Why this insistence on describing "Baltic states" as an unofficial term? The term is neither official nor unofficial; it is just a descriptive term! Similar terms like "the Balkans", "the Nordic countries", "Scandinavia", "Western/Eastern/Southern/Northern Europe", "Middle East", "Far East" are all just as "unofficial", sometimes well-defined and sometimes not. The term "Baltic states" is used by i.e. the Baltic Assembly here, by the Lithuanian government here, the Latvian precidency here and the Estonian parliament here. Unofficial? Rubbish!

It is true that before WWII the term also often included Finland (and sometimes even East Prussia), but the current formula in the lede indicates that the term itself is post-WWII, which is false. I suggest making the lede simply stating how the term is used currently, is a geopolitical term, currently typically being used to group three countries:, and then expanding the text in the 'Etymology' section somewhat to explain the shift in meaning of the term. T*U (talk) 13:08, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should Finland be marked on the map as "sometimes included"

Both the Middle East and Nordic ones do something similar.

Finland was considered a Baltic State for the first half of the 20th century(Culturally tied to Estonia, broke away from Russia, not Germanic) and the switch mostly occurred as a result of Cold War politics, the Baltic States were the 'illegally annexed' triplets and Finland got out of WW2 unannexed. TheBrodsterBoy (talk) 19:44, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, it should not be marked on the map, since it is only of historical interest. It is already mentioned in the History section, but even that needs a better source which explicitly discusses such usage. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 19:49, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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