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Former good article nomineeBernie Sanders was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
August 26, 2015Good article nomineeNot listed
August 28, 2015Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former good article nominee

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2025

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Image is quite old, being 5 year old. We have a nce image on wikipedia commons that is from this year, please change it. Image link: File:Bernie Sanders 2025 (3x4 close cropped).jpg ~2025-33410-78 (talk) 21:55, 13 November 2025 (UTC) Edit: I read the talk page and see that editors want a smiling bernie. So use this image, it has no mic and it is more recent (2023). File:Bernie Sanders 2023.jpg[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. NotJamestack (talk) 22:16, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Where did you read that? Slomo666 (talk) 14:46, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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I propose merging Media coverage of Bernie Sanders into the main Bernie Sanders article. The existence of this standalone article represents a significant departure from Wikipedia norms for political figures.

No precedent for comparable or more notable politicians: No equivalent "Media coverage of [Person]" article exists for any other American politician, including those of far greater historical significance: sitting or former presidents (Donald Trump, Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton), major party nominees (Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Mitt Romney), or even historically consequential world leaders (Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, Franklin D. Roosevelt). If media coverage warrants a standalone article for a senator who twice sought but never secured a major party presidential nomination, the same standard should logically apply to presidents and nominees—yet it does not. This asymmetry suggests the article fails WP:NPOV by singling out Sanders for treatment not applied consistently elsewhere.

Content better suited for existing articles: The substance of this article largely concerns Sanders's 2016 and 2020 presidential campaigns and would be more appropriately integrated into Bernie Sanders 2016 presidential campaign, Bernie Sanders 2020 presidential campaign, Media coverage of the 2016 United States presidential election, or a condensed section within the main biography.

Note on civility: Discussion of media bias is inherently contentious, and past debates on this topic have occasionally generated heated exchanges. Editors are reminded to adhere to WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF throughout this discussion. This proposal concerns article structure and consistency with Wikipedia-wide practices, not the validity of any political viewpoint.

~2025-43106-03 (talk) 19:46, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Rationale is obviously AI-generated without human review, these ChatGPT-generated arguments make no mention of valid reasons for merging and make obviously false statements that don't take long to check. There is an equivalent Media coverage of Donald Trump article. Other politicians have similar "Public image of (name)" articles. But the existence (or nonexistence) of other articles is also a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS / WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST argument and not a good reason for merging. Also worth mentioning that the Media coverage of Bernie Sanders article has survived the AfD process on four separate occasions. Please do not use generative AI on Wikipedia, either in articles or in talk page discussions. It does not understand Wikipedia policy and AI-generated discussion noms are spam that waste other editors' time.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 05:56, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Vanilla Wizard: I won't use AI at all when replying to you. Technically, Media coverage of Donald Trump is a redirect, though you are right that there are a lot of "Public image of (name)" articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=intitle%3A"Public+image+of" Regardless of AI usage or not, I didn't know of the WP:OTHERSTUFF fallacy (humans make mistakes too :p). But now that you mentioned this, I think a better solution would be to rename the article to "Public image of Bernie Sanders" to fit existing conventions.
Of course, it's possible to go the other way and create "Media coverage of" articles for FDR, Hitler, etc., but simply renaming would be far cleaner.
Finally, if you look through this article's history, a lot of the original content came from heated campaign-era debates about media bias that have since cooled down, which probably explains why this topic has been contentious in the past. ~2025-43573-12 (talk) 16:41, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Changing the name of the page would make it more consistent with others which is a good thing, but precision (i.e. the title should reflect the content of the article) matters just as much, arguably even more than consistency because consistency should be the deciding factor "where other considerations are equal" per WP:TITLECON. And for the reasons we discussed above (otherstuff & the page surviving many an AfD discussion), I'm of the opinion that it'd be okay for that page to remain as-is. If anything, I think some information about this topic found in his biography article (in the "Polls and news coverage") could be trimmed from the bio and transferred over to the media coverage page, as his biography page is quite long and the media coverage page has room for expansion. The biography page is 375,341 bytes, we should be splitting things off of it, not merging more things into it.
Since you've mentioned that a lot of the work on the page was done during the campaign era when it was more contentious and it's since cooled down, I want to note that that's often how these things go and this isn't really relevant to what we should do with the page today. Articles about events, elections, natural disasters, or anything else that happens in our lifetime are typically developed when they're ongoing, when academics and journalists are more interested in writing sources about the topic and our editors are more interested in using those sources to write an article about the topic. Notability isn't temporary; if a topic received significant enough coverage to pass the bar for notability, that notability doesn't degrade over time as interest cools down. Nor does the contentiousness matter; Wikipedia is full of pages about controversial topics, what matters is that these pages don't run afoul of WP:NPOV and that the sourcing is reliable, secondary, and independent. In my opinion, all of that is true for the media coverage page. It contains a mix of scholarly sources and news articles and presents a wide range of perspectives which are properly attributed and not written in Wikipedia's voice, and it doesn't give undue weight to any particular perspective. (Of course, even if it did have some major NPOV problems, this would just necessitate fixing the page, not getting rid of it, unless it's a WP:POVFORK which is not the case here)
All that said, I actually have no opposition to there being a "Public image of Bernie Sanders" article, but that's a much broader scope so we couldn't just take the media coverage page and rename it and call it good. The "Approval ratings" and "In popular culture" sections of his biography could also be split off into the public image article as those sections are often found in those "public image of" pages. Other commonly included sections like a "Personal image" including a "Personal appearance" subsection could probably be written, and Bernie Sanders mittens meme could likely be merged into it. Any honors and awards he received could be covered in a "Recognition" section.
TL;DR - we certainly could have a "Public image of Bernie Sanders", but that'd be a bit more complicated than just changing the name & there's not necessarily anything wrong with the media coverage article staying as-is, it's a well-sourced page about a notable topic and we shouldn't merge pages into an already very long page
 Vanilla  Wizard 💙 19:58, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting change to Bernie Sanders

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  • What I think should be changed: Please add this to the top of the article {{Merge from|Media coverage of Bernie Sanders|discuss=Talk:Bernie Sanders#Merge_Media_coverage_of_Bernie_Sanders_into_Bernie_Sanders_(and_other_related_articles)|date=December 2025}}
  • Why it should be changed: I created a new section on Talk:Bernie Sanders requesting the merger. I also added the merge to template to Media coverage of Bernie Sanders. So this needs to be done for consistency.

~2025-43106-03 (talk) 20:10, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Day Creature (talk) 20:50, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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