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The Importance of Oral History in the development of the Abrahamic religions. Until the printing press in 1445, al faiths were passed orally.

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Too much emphasis is placed on written text to PROVE points regarding Jesus when there was very little existence of writing of amongst his believers nor literacy until almost 1500 years after his death and life. Oral tradition is a valid under utilized manner of determining credibility. There is some secular writing between Pontius Pilot (Mayor of that area of R. Empire) and Caesar Nero that is extremely relevant and mirrors biblical teachings but with a different perspective. They were afraid of sedition and that is the charge Jesus was crucified for by the Roman’s. The Jewish tribe had little to do with it but regarded Jesus in the same general manner: a disrupter of the statue quo and their authority. 2806:2F0:5120:FBB1:DD04:372D:3121:ACB8 (talk) 09:21, 16 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2025

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The article mentions a study that is not considered reliable and it should be removed

The 2015 study is not considered reliable according to wikipedia standards see: WP:JOSHUAPROJECT the study called is Believers in Christ from a Muslim Background: A Global Census and its referenced in this article. ~2025-34369-73 (talk) 15:35, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please be more specific about exactly what should be removed from the article (just the reference? the article text based on it?) and use Template:Text diff to show the exact changes that should be made. Day Creature (talk) 18:43, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well the references and the article text which is stated below:
A study conducted by St. Mary's University estimated about 10.2 million Muslim converts to Christianity in 2015 ~2025-34491-04 (talk) 14:34, 19 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Christianity is growing rapidly": it isn't

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The "Demographics" section contains the claim that "Christianity is growing rapidly" across the world. According to the newest worldwide religion statistics provided by the Pew Research Center that claim is not true, since Christianity has actually been shrinking across the world: https://wildhunt.org/2025/07/new-reports-says-global-religion-in-flux-christians-decline-other-religions-rise.html ~2025-36942-08 (talk) 23:05, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the study the number (or count) of Christians fell in two regions. In Europe, Christians declined to 505

million (down 9%). In North America, they shrank to 238 million (down 10%). In every other region, the number of Christians grew. The count increased most in sub-Saharan Africa, to 697 million (up 31%). What you present does not contradict the article. The article mentions the decline of Christianity in the West and its growth in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.~2025-36747-11 (talk) 09:16, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources don't support your claim. The newest Pew Research statistics cited in that article found a decline of Christianity all over the world except in South-Saharan Africa: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/feature/religious-composition-by-country-2010-2020/
Also, please refrain from removing tags as you did here: Decline of Christianity in the Western world: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia ~2025-37112-80 (talk) 22:15, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Across the whole world based on what exactly? And here is what the study itself says: “The number (or count) of Christians fell in two regions. In Europe, Christians declined to 505 million (down 9%). In North America, they shrank to 238 million (down 10%). In every other region, the number of Christians grew. The count increased most in sub-Saharan Africa, to 697 million (up 31%)”. According to the Pew study, out of roughly 201 countries, only about 40 showed a decrease of more than 5% in the share of Christians, and most of these were Western countries. However, this does not necessarily mean a decline in absolute numbers. Nor does it imply especially in non-Western countries that the decline is driven by people abandoning religion. In some cases, the drop is due to Christian emigration, as in Lebanon and Kazakhstan. In others, such as Nigeria, it is shaped by higher fertility rates among other religious groups compared with Christians, or by lower fertility rates overall, including among Christian populations.~2025-36657-60 (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And regarding the article: the one you are referring to is filled with sources from the years 2000 to 2005, and you don’t seem to have any issue with that. Meanwhile, the article that presents alternative viewpoints includes sources from 2020, 2018, and even 2025 based on more recent studies.
In any case, the discussion is pointless. Everything presented in the study is thoroughly covered in the article: the decline of Christianity in the West, the decrease in certain parts of the Middle East due to the Christian emigration, and the growth of Christianity in Africa, Asia, and even in the Gulf states (as a result of migration to the Gulf region). It also discusses the drop in percentage compared to the rise in absolute numbers, such as in Brazil. Nothing in it contradicts the Pew study. Finally, it is better to rely on the study itself rather than on an article written by someone who identifies herself as a “witch,” selecting only what fits her narrative from the study.~2025-36657-60 (talk) 23:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sources from the 2000s and even 2010s are now obsolete, and should be removed. Regarding the source, the original source is the Pew Research Center's study, not the article on The Wild Hunt. There is plenty of other articles that have summarised the new statistics by Pew, even from Christian news websites: Global Christian Decline: New Data Exposes Alarming Trend Worldwide - CBN News. ~2025-37260-86 (talk) 20:35, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Data about the % of Christians by world region directly taken from the study by Pew: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/06/09/christian-population-change/
- Asia-Pacific: 6.1% in 2010, 5.9% in 2020 = -0.2%
- Europe: 74.6% in 2010, 67.1% in 2020 = -7.6%
- Latin America: 90.1% in 2010, 84.6% in 2020 = -5.5%
- Middle East-North Africa: 3.3% in 2010, 2.9% in 2020 = -0.4%
- North America: 77.2% in 2010, 62.9% in 2020 = -14.3%
- Sub-Saharan Africa: 61.7% in 2010, 62% in 2020 = +0.3%
What I see is that Christianity has shrunk in percentage worldwide, except in Sub-Saharan Africa. And the growth of Christians in absolute numbers has been really small, about 120m, and didn't keep up with the growth of the world population overall. ~2025-37260-86 (talk) 20:54, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article talks about the decline in the number of majority-Christian countries from 124 to 120. It does not discuss a decline in the absolute number of Christians. According to the study, the number of Christians worldwide increased by about 121 million between 2010 and 2020. No one denies the decline of Christianity in the West, and the article does not claim that Christianity is growing in the West. It clearly states that the growth is in Africa and Asia. The study shows that Christianity grew in these regions by 6.1% and 31.1%, respectively.
There is no contradiction. The debate here is pointless, as you have not presented anything that contradicts what the article states. There is even a substantial section discussing the decline of Christianity in the West.
The number of Christians in Asia and the Pacific increased from 253 million to 268 million; in Latin America from 530 million to 546 million; in the Middle East and North Africa from 11.8 million to 13 million; and in sub-Saharan Africa from 531 million to 697 million. The total number rose from 2.1 billion to 2.3 billion. Only in Europe and North America was there a decline in absolute numbers.~2025-37307-20 (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, when it says that Christianity is growing… it specifies exactly which regions it is growing in—whether in absolute numbers or in percentages. The debate is pointless.~2025-37307-20 (talk) 21:11, 29 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
120m is an extremely small growth compared to the world population (with whose growth it didn't keep up), as are the regional growths in Asia and Latin America (both 15m), and Middle East-North Africa (1m). The only substantial growth has been in Sub-Saharan Africa. There is no "rapid growth" of Christianity anywhere in the world, except in South-Saharan Africa (related to the quick growth of the overall population of that region). ~2025-37501-47 (talk) 19:52, 30 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The references used do not support the claims being made

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No I assumed the 2018 study was referring to believers in Christ from a Muslim background which has been labelled as unreliable as you can see here WP:JOSHUAPROJECT. However when I looked at the three references given for the 12 to 15 million figure none of them mention it nor do they support the page numbers given in the reference tag. I suggest you look into this instead of labelling my edits as “disruptive”. @Durziil89 Griggorous (talk) 20:02, 25 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am confused by a section that begins with the word "No". What's really going on here? HiLo48 (talk) 23:43, 25 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion was initially made in the edit summaries but durziil89 has not responded besides in the edit summaries. Griggorous (talk) 00:05, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest you go through the three references given the 12 to 15 million claim is not mentioned in any of them:
1.Ibrahim, Ayman S.; Greenham, Ant (2018). Muslim Conversions to Christ: A Critique of Insider Movements in Islamic Contexts. Switzerland: Peter Lang Publisher. pp. 336–341.
The pages from 336 to 341 make no such claim
2.Radford, David (2019). Religious Identity and Social Change: Explaining Christian Conversion in a Muslim World. Taylor & Francis Group. pp. 104–105. ISBN 9780367869755.
From page 104 and 105 doesn't make the claim of 12 to 15 million in fact it talks about Kyrgyz christian converts and interviews with them
3.Muslim-Christian Relations: Historical and Contemporary Realities. Oxford University Press. pp. 2–10.
Does not discuss conversions of any sought if you look at the pages between 2 and 10.
@Durziil89 Griggorous (talk) 20:30, 25 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These three sources where all added in a single edit by @Koshuri Sultan. They are all behind various pay walls (so I haven't checked them myself). If someone has access to these sources and could check that would solve this dipute. Rolluik (talk) 13:50, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You can use websites like z-libary to access the sources. Griggorous (talk) 19:26, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]