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[edit]Sikh rule
[edit]Tertiary sources
[edit]- Zutshi, Chitralekha (2019), Kashmir, Oxford India Short Introductions, New Delhi: Oxford University Press, pp. 37–38, ISBN 978-0-19-012141-9
Zutshi, Kashmir, 2019, Sikh rule, anti-Muslim policies
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Sikh rule was not qualitatively different than Afghan rule in terms of administration, revenue collection, and so on. Ranjit Singh left the administration of Kashmir to his governors, many of whom were Punjabi Khattris and took control of its administrative machinery with the help of Kashmiri karkun. Since Ranjit Singh was engaged in near-constant warfare like the Afghans, taxes continued to be oppressive, and in an attempt to increase revenues even further, the Sikh administration resumed jagirs (land grants) that had been held by Muslim families and shrines since the Mughal period, while at the same time endowing other land grants, some revenue-free, to non-Muslims. |
- Bose, Sumantra (2021), Kashmir at the Crossroads: Inside a 21st-Century Conflict, New Haven and London: Yale University Press, p. 6, LCCN 2021944148
Sumantra Bose, 2021, Sikh rule, Zorawar, Gulab
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The princely state of Jammu and Kashmir came into being in 1846. Its founder was Gulab Singh (1792–1857), a warrior chieftain from the Jammu region. Singh belonged to a traditionally martial Rajput sub-caste of the Dogras, an ethnolinguistic group found in significant numbers in the Jammu region. Hence the princely state is often recalled, especially in the Kashmir Valley which lies to the north of the Jammu region, as ‘Dogra rule’ or the ‘Dogra monarchy’. Gulab was a courtier and commander of Ranjit Singh, the great Sikh ruler who established a mini-empire across vast tracts of northern and north-western India in the early nineteenth century with its capital in the Punjab city of Lahore (in Pakistan post-August 1947). But after the Sikh monarch’s death in 1839, Gulab Singh colluded with British schemes to undermine and eliminate Sikh power, which proved successful within a decade. During the 1820s and 1830s, Gulab Singh’s forces — led by his most intrepid commander, Zorawar Singh — had gradually expanded his territories northward from the plains and sub-Himalayan foothills of the southern parts of the Jammu region to mountainous areas in the Jammu interiors, and then to the sparsely populated high Himalayan regions of Ladakh and Baltistan (Zorawar was killed in 1841 when he forayed further east from Ladakh into Tibet). In 1846, as Sikh power unravelled, the Kashmir Valley under Sikh rule since 1819 ~— was up for grabs and the British rewarded Gulab Singh for his collaboration by selling him the Kashmir Valley, along with the remote region of Gilgit to the north of Baltistan. The British were not interested in garrisoning and governing far-flung Himalayan territories and it suited them to sub-contract their authority to Gulab Singh. |
Secondary sources
[edit]- Hussain, Shahla (2021), Kashmir in the Afterman of the Partition, Cambridge and New York: Cambridge University Press, p. 27, ISBN 978-1-108-49046-7
Hussain 2021, "starvation" in "half-deserted villages"
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Afghans, Sikhs, and finally the British-supported Dogra Raj all prioritized high taxation over efficient governance to maintain their domination. Eighteenth- and nineteenth-century regional narratives and European travelogues alike document heart-wrenching stories of injustice and persecution which kept Kashmiris in constant terror. During his travels to Kashmir in the early nineteenth century, for example, the French naturalist Victor Jacquemont lamented the lack of value placed on human life in the poverty-stricken state. Jacquemont described the ruthlessness of the Afghan governors who employed collective punishments to create fear in people’s hearts; their favorite tools of oppression included hanging political dissenters in public, then leaving their tortured bodies on display.5 Other European travelers corroborated such stories of injustice, which continued after the Sikh conquest of 1819.6 British explorer William Moorcroft exposed the disproportionate revenue demand that impoverished Kashmiri villages under Sikh rule. He described in detail the “ghastly picture of poverty and starvation” in “half deserted villages” as “wretched Kashmiris” struggled to survive under a regime that “looked upon [them] a little better than cattle.”7 As policies imposed by ruthless empires reduced ordinary Kashmiris to servitude, the ideas of “justice,” “equity,” and “truth” articulated by local saints and mystics under the banner of spiritual “freedom” provided hope that an oppressive society could be transformed. |
- Khan, Bilal Ahmad (2022), "J&K's Economy in Historical Perspective (section in the author's own book)", Jammu & Kashmir: Levels, Issues, and Prospects of Employment Generation, Oxford UK: Oxford University Press, ISBN 978-0-19-284965-6
Khan 2022, Sikh rule, taxation, excerpt
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Dogra rule
[edit]Tertiary sources
[edit]- Fisher, Michael H. (2018), An Environmental History of India: From the Earliest Times to the Twenty-First Century, Cambridge UK and New York NY: Cambridge University Press, pp. 173–174, doi:10.1017/9781316276044, ISBN 9781107111622, LCCN 2018021693
Fisher, Environmental History of India, 2018, Kashmir, end of the Raj, natural resources including wildlife
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The departing British also decreed that the hundreds of princes, who ruled one-third of the subcontinent and a quarter of its population, became legally independent, their status to be settled later. Geographical location, personal and popular sentiment, and substantial pressure and incentives from the new governments led almost all princes eventually to merge their domains into either Pakistan or India. In Pakistan, some princes retained considerable autonomy for decades (and some continue to hold substantial political influence). In India, many princes negotiated special privileges and incomes (until the 26th Amendment to the Constitution ended them in 1971). Uncooperative princes faced force. Pakistan pressured the ruler of Kalat in Balochistan (population 150,000) into acceding. The Muslim government of Hindu-majority Junagadh (population 500,000) tried to join distant Pakistan, but India annexed it (which Pakistan still officially protests). The Muslim Nizam of Hindu-majority Hyderabad (population 14 million) claimed independence, but Indian troops seized it in 1949. The Hindu ruler of Muslim majority Jammu and Kashmir (population 3 million) initially claimed independence, but then suddenly opted for India, amid battles between the Pakistani and Indian armies, themselves recently partitioned out of the British Indian Army. Kashmir’s identity remains hotly disputed with a UN-supervised “Line of Control” still separating Pakistani-held Azad (“Free”) Kashmir from Indian-held Kashmir (where a half-million Indian troops are now trying to control ongoing popular resistance). |
- Ludden, David (2014), India and South Asia, A Short History, London: Oneworld Publications, ISBN 978-1-85168-936-1
David Ludden, 2014, Kashmir, agrarian policy, social orders
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In native states, dynasties and their allies formed ethnic elites, some very small, such as the Muslim dynasty in Hyderabad and the Hindu regime in Kashmir. The ethnic-minority status of the Hyderabad and Kashmir dynasties led them to enact landlord policies that favoured small ruling cliques and caused widespread resentment among tenants whose struggles for land rights became opposition to the dynasty. Both states witnessed severe violence as their native-state dynasties ended in 1947. (44%, Kindle) |
Secondary sources
[edit]- Rai, Mridu (2014) [2004], Hindu Rulers, Muslim Subjects: Islam, Rights, and the History of Kashmir, Delhi and Princeton: Permanent Black, originally Princeton University Press, p. 64
Rai, Hindu Rulers Muslim Subjects, 2004/2012
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Although the domination of Kashmir by the Sikh state based in Lahore had lasted only for about a quarter of a century, it became an important gauge against which both the British and Gulab Singh were to measure their own performances as they fashioned the new state. Henry Lawrence enjoined Gulab Singh in 1846 to 'make liberal arrangements with the Rajahs, chiefs and subjects [of Kashmir], . . . leaving no man worse off than he was under the Sikhs. As he urged further, 'If you do so, your rule will be hailed with joy and your name go down to posterity with blessings . . .'138 The British were not overly taxing their new ally, by and large extending the status quo with a minimum requirement that Gulab Singh ensure his rule simply be 'no worse' than that of the Sikhs.139 There is a marked degree of disingeniousness in these professions of concern on behalf of the population of Kashmir, since Sikh rule over Kashmir had already been denounced in the strongest of terms by the British.140 It is interesting that, at this time, the comparison made so often from the late nineteenth century onwards between the poor state of affairs in princely India and the benefits available to subjects in British Indian territory, is rarely, if at all, heard. therefore, in 1846, the British were not demanding the very highest of standards of governance from Gulab Singh. |
- Sneddon, Christopher (2021), Independent Kashmir, an Incomplete Aspiration, Manchester UK: Manchester University Press, p. 96, ISBN 978-1-5261-5614-3
Sneddon, 2019, Dogra rule
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Dogra rule came to J&K following the British defeat of the Sikhs in the first Anglo-Sikh War in 1846. (British forces also won the second Anglo-Sikh War in 1849.) The victorious East India Company then concluded two consecutive treaties. The first was the Treaty of Lahore on 9 March, which, amongst other matters, imposed reparations on the losers. The second, exactly a week later, was the Treaty of Amritsar with Raja Gulab Singh who, in 1846, assisted the British against the Sikhs.11 According to the Frenchman, Victor Jacquemont, who met Gulab Singh in 1831, he ‘was a soldier of fortune and a usurper’.12 Along with his younger brothers, Dhyan and Suchet, these three Singh brothers from Jammu had enjoyed considerable influence and notoriety at Emperor Ranjit Singh’s Lahore Court until his death in 1839. Dhyan, who became Ranjit Singh’s Prime Minister in 1828, and Suchet, were particular favourites of the Emperor.13 In the post-Ranjit political turmoil, their power and status diminished when Dhyan was assassinated in 1843 and Suchet was killed in 1844. Gulab remained alive, but possibly with some blood on his hands. Allegedly, Gulab was ‘inferior ... in talent’ to his younger brothers, particularly Dhyan.14 Nevertheless, most Britishers generally considered him to be very capable, although some disliked him, even though, or possibly because, he perfidiously assisted the British to defeat the discombobulated Sikhs. Herbert Edwardes, for example, who had been Gulab Singh’s political advisor in 1846,15 considered the Dogra ruler to be ‘a bad king, a miser, and a liar! If he is not all this, and a thousand times worse (for he is the worst native I ever came in contact with).’16 Edwardes’ boss, Henry Lawrence,17 a signatory with Gulab Singh on the Treaty of Amritsar, considered the Dogra to be ‘a bad man’ and ‘a man of indifferent character’, although, pragmatically, ‘there are few princes who were any better’.18 While the character of their ally, Gulab Singh, left a lot to be desired, the British at that stage had little choice but to be involved with this Jammuite as they then knew few, if any, Kashmiris. By 1846, less than ten Europeans had ever visited Kashmir.19 |
- Suhail, Peer Ghulam Nabi (2018), Pieces of Earth: The Politics of Land-Grabbing in Kashmir, New Delhi: Oxford University Press, ISBN 978-0-19-909165-2
Suhail, 2018, Dogra rule, excerpt
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The Sikhs were replaced by the Dogras in 1846, and their rule lasted till 1947. Whereas Kashmir lost its sovereignty in 1586 itself to Mughals, the region and its dependencies got enslaved with the arrival of the Dogra rule which came into existence through the Treaty of Amritsar. This Treaty was signed between the English EIC and Maharaja Gulab Singh, the first Dogra ruler of Kashmir, on 16 March 1846 (Rai 2004). Under the Treaty, the EIC transferred the region of Kashmir to the Maharaja for 75 lakh Nanak Shahi rupees (Puri 1981). With the Dogras taking over Kashmir, they declared private ownership of property land as null and void, and brought all the land under State control (Aziz 2010). This resulted in peasantry losing the ownership of land, which they were owning from centuries. With the Maharaja taking control of the land, he transferred huge chunks of land called Jagirs (assigned tracts of land) to a neo-class of intermediaries to create a support base. These intermediaries, mostly Hindus, were different types of landlords with varied designations, called Jagirdars (assignees), Muafidars, Illaqadars and Chakdars (land holders exempt from payment of revenue), and Pattadars (rent receiver of a piece of land) and were actually collaborators of feudal Lord Maharaja (Beg 1995). Even though the Jagir was not a permanent transfer of ownership of land to the Jagirdar, yet they acted as masters and used cruelty against the tenants (Aziz 2010). Under those circumstances, peasants turned from owners of land to mere ‘serfs’, as they did not have even right to cultivation or right to occupancy of land, rather they were tied to it, not even allowed to move out, instead were forced to cultivate the land (Beg 1995: 36; Lawrence 2002: 2-3). However, despite restrictions imposed on migration, many of the peasants managed to ‘flee’ to Punjab and other regions to escape the rant of landlords and the Raj. In short, peasantry in this period not only lost the ownership but also had to face immense miseries at the hands of intermediaries and the State which appropriated major portion of their produce, leaving just a meagre amount for their survival. Moreover, the State also levied huge taxes, which put further burden on the already beleaguered peasantry. The realm of British India’s Non-Interventionist Policy in the region, which was due to the fact that they had sold the region to the Dogras, changed with the appointment of British Resident in 1885 in Kashmir to work for the reforms in the Dogra state. This appointment was made after the grievances were made to the British crown against the Dogra rule which had crossed the limits of cruelty (Aziz 2010). The exploitation of Indian resources and the very imposition of inhuman laws on peasantry by British in India are well established, however in Kashmir the very intervention of British crown in the state was seen as a blessing, as the Dogra rule in Kashmir was more exploitive and cruel than the British rule in the rest of India (Aziz 2010). |
Post-colonial South Asia
[edit]Tertiary sources
[edit]Secondary sources
[edit]F&f's general principles
[edit]These principles are not meant to be observed compulsively all the time, but judiciously, with wisdom.
- In the manner in which I use the expression, "tertiary sources" and "secondary sources", there are many levels of sources. Also, when I use "good example" below, I don't mean that the books or article has no errors or is widely cited, only that they belong to the class of such sources.
- level TT or tertiary-tertiary
- these are Broad scale histories of South Asia. They determine how important Kashmir really is in the history of South Asia. (David Ludden and Michael Fisher are good examples. I'll be adding more of course.)
- level TS, or tertiary-secondary
- There are histories of Kashmir. They determine how important the topic is in the history of Kashmir. (Chitralekha Zutshi's Kashmir is a good example)
- level ST, or secondary-tertiary,
- these use primary sources but cover a wide range. PGN Suhail's book on the politics of land grabbing in Kashmir is a good example.
- level SS, or secondary-secondary
- These also use primary sources but cover a narrow range. A journal article abut land reforms in Kashmir between 1948 and 1951 would belong to this level.
- I try to observe the principles:
- The tertiary sources are not to be used for the fine details if they are not replicated in secondary sources Why? Because the tertiary sources are meant to sum up secondary sources.
- The tertiary sources are to be used for the broad trends, they determine WP:due weight.
- Always proceed from TT to SS.
- One of the problems with Wikipedia is that people don't read books. This has happened in great part because of Google, and I suppose this was Jimbo Wales's pioneering insight, essentially that of a crowd-sourced knowledge base. But it has major weaknesses. Editors can search for a term and find a source that uses the term in some context. They can put it in an article without knowing or assessing how the author is using that term and in what context. In the old days, they would have had to find a book in a library or buy it it in a bookstore, scan it, read some relevant pages. Now they are more like data entry operators. The crowd-sourced system may converge to equilibrium but it hasn't yet, especially not in the topics in the Humanities and Social Sciences, and there is no certainty. In the science and technology topics, in which due weight is not as important, WP has done a better job. It is mostly the work of anonymous editors (I suspect).
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Name has not entirely lost it's narrow sense
[edit]The "Zaniskari horse in Ladakh" is an Icelandic horse in Iceland
[edit]The image of a Zaniskari horse in 'Flora and fauna' is of an Icelandic horse taken in Iceland, and the user who uploaded it to Wikimedia commons stole it from a photographer and lied about where it was taken and what it displays.
https://pixabay.com/users/etieck-12033072/ <- This is where the image is stolen from (note the Iceland tag) and https://youpic.com/estebantieck/698442469516742/698640373550592 <- this is another photo by the same photographer from the same trip in Iceland where he makes it even more explicit that these are Icelandic horses in Iceland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zaniskari_Horse_in_Ladakh.jpg <- This is the thief's upload wherein he has tilted the image slightly, flipped it horizontally, and changed the color scheme to look more Central-Asian.
I can not fix this because the entire page is edit-protected. Kindly fix this. Stosseled (talk) 18:40, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'll remove the image pending verification. Note that this doesn't appear to be a copyright issue per the license on pixabay but, rather, an "is this image from Ladakh" issue. --RegentsPark (comment) 01:06, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RegentsPark and Stosseled: I agree that this horse, and the landscape, more closely fits the Icelandic horse than it does the Zaniskari in physique and condition. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 13:22, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Why this article does not have info box?? 獅眠洞 (talk) 00:33, 14 July 2025 (UTC)