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Turkish people do not call Lahmacun "Armenian Pizza" and Turks in Turkey also do not call it "Turkish Pizza". It should be noted that lahmacun is often referred to as Turkish Pizza in European territories. 2A02:A46C:2D3B:0:487D:D440:1C3:82D6 (talk) 09:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources mostly do not specify where it is called "Armenian/Turkish pizza," so I have split the sentence to avoid WP:SYNTH. Aintabli (talk) 17:27, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News articles are about a variant of Sfiha dubbed the Armenian Sfiha

Jabba550, It's not related to Lahmacun (Lahma bi Ajin) and Sfiha are not the same. Furthermore to say that some parts of the Arab world call Lahma bi Ajin --> Armenian Sfiha is misleading just translate the news articles. --~2025-39510-00 (talk) 10:16, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-39510-00 How do they differ? How is that misleading? Please elaborate. I was the one who added that information because that's what everyone I know calls it, if it can be established that they are indeed different things then I will move the information to sfiha. 2kbfloppadisk (talk) 10:48, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The news articles in question discuss a variant of Sfiha prepared by Armenians, hence the term Armenian Sfiha. They do not equate Sfiha with Lahmacun (Lahm bi Ajin). Saying that most of the Arab world refers to Lahm bi Ajin as Armenian Sfiha is misleading and not supported by the cited sources. The article itself makes no such claim, so interpreting it that way amounts to original research. Manakish, Sfiha, and Lahm bi Ajin are distinct dishes within Levantine cuisine. --~2025-39510-00 (talk) 10:59, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@~2025-39510-00 How so? 2 of the cited articles (Oman observer, ad-dustor) equate the two. A quick Google search will reveal more sources that equate "Armenian sfiha" and "Lahm bi-ajeen".

Also, I don't think my original phrasing ever said "most of the Arab world", it said "some areas in the Arab world".

Regardless, I don't mind moving this information to sfiha; the names of food items are rarely precise definitions and arguing over them is unproductive. 2kbfloppadisk (talk) 12:01, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, after more research, I found that the Armenian variety is its own variation of lahm bi-ajeen/sfeeha, so separating the two is reasonable, see the sources (AJ, Felesteen) in Sfiha#Palestine. Though, that is kind of expected.

That said, it's still muddy, as is the case with these kinds of articles, so I do think that there is some truth to the initial statement, I still find a lot of people who use the two terms interchangeably. 2kbfloppadisk (talk) 12:55, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly sounds like an adaption of Sfiha which is more appropiate in the Sfiha article. Based on the cited sources (Al Jazeera, Ad-Dustour, Oman Daily, etc.), the term Armenian Sfiha refers to an Armenian variation of Sfiha, not to Lahm bi Ajeen in general being called that. They describe a localized version prepared by the Armenian community. --~2025-39510-00 (talk) 17:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up introduction

Of course in line with NPOV , if anyone has suggestions let's discuss. --~2025-39510-00 (talk) 10:45, 11 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]