Talk:Mathematical linguistics

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Change redirect link

In the {{Math topics TOC}} template, I noticed that nearly every field of applied mathematics has its own wikipedia article, except for mathematical linguistics, so I decided to create an article for it. Currently, "mathematical linguistics" redirects to the computational linguistics article, so the redirect should be changed once this article is published to the mainspace. So far, I've mostly created a composite article, with a bibliography, some new info, and links to other articles. Zero Contradictions (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion regarding formal linguistics

While writing this draft, I noticed that the formal linguistics article. Given that this article is only a stub and that it talks about subcategory of mathematical linguistics, I think that it would be appropriate to merge it into the mathematical linguistics article, once it's published to the mainspace. Zero Contradictions (talk) 23:18, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No one else has commented on this discussion, and I realized that the main paragraph of the Psychological Approach in the formal linguistics article actually fit better in the history section of the generative grammar article. Since most of the content inside the formal linguistics article was already copied into this mathematical linguistics article, I decided to proceed with the merge. Zero Contradictions (talk) 14:41, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies that I only saw this now, but I'm going to revert this WP:BOLD, effectively undiscussed merge.

(It made comparatively little sense to post this only on the talk page of the new article you yourself made—no one would have this on their watchlist. This wasn't even posted on Talk:Formal linguistics. It would've been ideal to use the {{Merge to}} template, which helps more folks see it.)

Formal linguistics seems a more ramified field in itself, with the notion of it being a subfield of mathematical linguistics being unobjectionable conceptually, but it not being the most natural for it to be relegated to a subarticle. Maybe NGrams illustrates what I mean by that some. GScholar and other searches seem to reinforce my intuition that activity in the subfield is roughly twice as intensive as the superfield.

It doesn't serve readers well IMO, and the article's previous state really wasn't that of a stub. Stubs are considerably shorter. See also WP:SPINOUT. Remsense ‥ 论 14:50, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize that I hadn't considered that I could've edited the talk page of the older article, where more people would've seen it on their watchlist. Although I've heard of watchlists, I'm still not used to using them, so I never thought to consider that other people might use them to view and monitor recent edits, including the creation of new talk page discussions. I will be more mindful of this in the future.

To my credit, I waited almost 3 months before proceeding with the merge, and the mathematical linguistics article has been getting twice as many pageviews over that time period compared to the formal linguistics article. But you're right that it still would've been better to also start a merge discussion on the formal linguistics talk page instead, for a quicker response.

I was going to add the {{Merge to}} and {{Merge from}} templates to the respective articles, but I had to leave my desktop computer to take care of an exigency immediately after I left the previous talk page comment, so I planned to add the templates later as soon as I got back home.

My reasoning for converting formal linguistics into a redirect was that there is no text about formal linguistics that isn't already inside mathematical linguistics or generative grammar#History. Nonetheless, I agree with your reasons for opposing its conversion into redirect page. The formal linguistics article has great potential for expansion. Zero Contradictions (talk) 18:29, 10 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments left by AfC reviewers

• Comment: @Robert McClenon: I have deleted Mathematical linguistics, so feel free to accept at your leisure. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]