This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the The Bronx article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the subject of the article.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 12 months

Per the very extensive discussions currently archived at Talk:The Bronx/Name, the current consensus is to have this article's name be The Bronx (with "The" in the title) rather than Bronx, and also to keep "the" uncapitalized when "the Bronx" is used in the middle of a sentence. Before making a new discussion about the Bronx's name, please review the earlier exchanges.

This  level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

New York (state) High‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York (state), a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of New York on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York (state)Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state)Template:WikiProject New York (state)New York (state) High This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale. New York City Top‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York City, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of New York City-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York CityWikipedia:WikiProject New York CityTemplate:WikiProject New York CityNew York City Top This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

The content of Bronx gangs (1950s–1960s) was merged into The Bronx. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

Archives

Archive 1 (March 2002–June 2009) Archive 2 (June 2009–December 2013) Name and capitalization archive

This page has archives. Topics inactive for 365 days are automatically archived 1 or more at a time by Lowercase sigmabot III if there are more than 4.

Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers. This article contains broken links to one or more target anchors: [[New York City mayoral elections#How the boroughs voted]] The anchor (#How the boroughs voted) has been deleted. The anchors may have been removed, renamed, or are no longer valid. Please fix them by following the link above, checking the page history of the target pages, or updating the links. Remove this template after the problem is fixed | Report an error

In the section "In popular culture" -> "Literature" -> "Poetry", Ogden Nash's poetic apology to the dean of Bronx Community College is described as a "prose poem", and I can't quite figure out why.

Its presentation is standard for poetry. The last six lines rhyme, and, as is not always true for Nash, they even scan, perfectly.

I guess I could have just put "Citation needed" after the "prose poem" categorization, but I thought I would be a bit more specific about my concern. What makes this a prose poem? Does any reputable external source describe it thus? I'm not a NYT subscriber so I can't check the referenced article to see if that is the source, but the description is so odd that I would be concerned even if it were written by the chairman of the English Department of Bronx Community College. ACW (talk) 00:31, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do (too extravagantly for my budget) subscribe to The Times on line, and this is how the reporter introduced the second poem:

Even Mr. Nash had second thoughts about the Bronx, and eventually tried to make amends. In 1964, 33 years after his original four-word poem was published, Mr. Nash wrote a letter to the dean of Bronx Community College apologizing — sort of:

—— Shakescene (talk) 03:12, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted the word "prose". Btw, you can sometimes get Times refs by copying and pasting the article title (eg, "Contrite Poet Gives A Cheer for Bronx On Golden Jubilee") into Google. Station1 (talk) 06:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, now that I see the image of the original article and its transcript, it's clear that those first two lines are simply part of Nash's reply to the dean and not part of the poem proper (no doubt why they don't scan). I've removed them. Station1 (talk) 06:40, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Station1 and Shakescene, for fixing this and for the advice about the Times. Eventually I will get my act together and subscribe -- the traditional press deserves our support. ACW (talk) 21:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why "The" is in the name ("The Bronx") and so in the Wikipedia title? Is not it a normal "the" article? Mezze stagioni (talk) 10:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's a whole section in the article describing this ("Use of definite article"). Ken Gallager (talk) 20:46, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 26 August 2025 and 22 December 2025. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): MDZmn (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by MDZmn (talk) 19:16, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that MOS:OVERLINK actually cites NYC as an example of something that may be overlinked. That being said, I think this recent edit takes things a bit too far. I would understand not linking NYC in an article about a random thing not related to the city. However, this is one of the five boroughs of NYC (and as such is a first-level administrative subdivision of the city). I would therefore say that New York City, far from being an overlink, must be linked in this context, as the link is directly relevant to the topic of the article. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:55, 22 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]