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Newly added images on politician infoboxes
[edit]Hey and sorry for bothering you again. Since I see that you have temporarily returned, I want to ask about the newly added images on Konstantinos Karamanlis and Andreas Papandreou, while also mentioning the returning image in Georgios Papadopoulos' opening infobox. They look to be AI-upscaled, and per Wikipedia:AI guidelines, if such upscaling has truly happened, I do not think it is necessary, even if these politicians aren't living persons anymore. If you don't mind, I would like your thoughts on the matter. Bill L. Hal (talk) 21:21, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Bill L. Hal That is an excellent question for which I do not have a good answer. Figures/pictures are not my forte because I have limited understanding of how to navigate copyright issues, which is taken very seriously here and especially at Wikicommons. The specific photos that you meant is something that I have noticed myself. They are of higher resolution that the old ones, which is good and seem to have justification to deal copyright issues. However, some they look a little awkward. For example, Costas Simitis and Konstantinos Karamanlis, both changed by the same user, look weird to me, but maybe it is just me. Now regarding AI upscaling, this is something that I did not think about and I do not know much about. What we can do is to raise the issue at Wikipedia:Teahouse/About to get some feedback and if necessary raise the issue at the administrator noticeboard (if this is the right venue). The problem is that Wikipedia:AI guidelines provides vague and hard to interpret statements, e.g.,
AI upscaling might be an appropriate use of AI, depending on context.
There are no examples or points of reference to compare and so it can mean anything. Let me know your thoughts. A.Cython (talk) 00:25, 22 November 2025 (UTC)- Thanks for the reply. Honestly, I do not think it is necessary, it is not like any of the pictures upscaled (bar maybe Papadopoulos' that was already replaced with the funny one with the sunglasses) weren't available anyway (to my knowledge). Also, for me, Simitis' infobox picture is borderline unsettling, it feels like it focuses too much on his facial characteristics in an odd shot, when the previously used one worked just fine in my opinion. Konstantinos Karamanlis' picture is, indeed, very weird looking, like the upscaling put way too much emphasis on the cheeks' characteristics. I would suggest reverting them to the previous pictures (provided they are still available with WikiCommons and whatnot) and raise the issue at Wikipedia:Teahouse/About as you proposed. Lend me your thoughts. Bill L. Hal (talk) 17:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I have already asked a guy at Wikicommons to double check the copyright justification for some of these pictures as find weird how navigates copyright; I am not an expert so asking someone that knows is preferable. I am also preparing a request for clarification at the Teahouse for AI upscaling since I have little knowledge about this issue and it is an opportunity to learn. After these two courses of action settle, then if the Simitis and Karamanlis portraits still there we could replace them on the grounds that are not suitable as portraits for the infobox citing reasons that we already mentioned, they look weird. My understanding one should choose portraits that are positive looking. A.Cython (talk) 18:08, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, I think those are reasonable courses of action. Mind you, I am also not knowledgeable on the subject, which is why I deferred to you in the first place. As for the last comment, I agree in principle, since this was, if I remember correctly, an issue with some celebrities having odd-looking portraits on their infoboxes on a similar premise: that the persons portrayed shouldn't look out of place or weird, unless deliberately shown (i.e. horror movie publicity stunts). I personally won't revert these edits just yet, but I look forward to your considerations. Bill L. Hal (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- FYI: I reverted the profile pictures for C. Simitis and K. Karamanlis, based on the argument that they looked unnatural. If there are any other pictures that require attention let me know. I will continue to engage the community regarding the AI upscaling to learn more things about it. It seems in the future this will be a frequent topic of debate.A.Cython (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, I will await further information in the teahouse page whenever I check it again. On an unrelated note, do you see a result of the GA review for A. Papandreou anytime soon? Talk to you later. Bill L. Hal (talk) 07:22, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- I left a note to the reviewer, but this will take time. Most likely he/she assessing the references, which can a daunting process for articles like these. A.Cython (talk) 15:06, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- I saw that the Andreas Papandreou article passed the review, and while I feel very proud of the work done, all the credit goes to you and the gargantuan effort that you made to make it from a mediocre article to a GA. I feel it also gives some closure to a very important personality, since information about him will now be more easily accessible and understandable for those that wish to learn about him and his policies. Hope you get to enjoy your rest. Bill L. Hal (talk) 22:03, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Bill L. Hal Thank you for your kind words. Indeed, it took a whole year since I started editing the article. But I am happy that there is some closure now. Though there are still few minor things to clean up. Eventually I want to work on the other Greek related articles, provided I find the time and enough reliable sources. A.Cython (talk) 22:10, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Well as long as you're doing the good effort, I'll probably be there in the background doing some minor corrections or adding a few already existing sources. At least the opening paragraph on Konstantinos Mitsotakis is better now and provides a summary of his political career.
- In any case, you've earned this GA badge and I am happy to have at least been even a small part of the ride. Bill L. Hal (talk) 22:12, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, about K. Mitsotakis, I want to bring this to GA status as well (no idea when). I have already transferred a lot of material from Papandreou to Mitsotakis article, but most of this material is about Papandreou. They overlapped considerably these two, and you can see the similarities in the writing. I need to find more resources where Mitsotakis is the protagonist, but not as much has been written about him, at least in english that I can access. It will take time. If you plan to add material in Papandreou article, keep in mind that GA status is temporary and maybe lost if the article grows large. If possible add the new material to its child articles, e.g., Foreign policy of Andreas Papandreou, Economic policies of Andreas Papandreou etc. A.Cython (talk) 22:40, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Right. I'll try to slack off a bit less and see what I can do, there are many websites pointing out details anyway, but of course academic sources are more trustworthy. Last month you did put a lot of work in to revitalize Mitsotakis Sr's article, and if I can I think I should help you with that. Still, I commend you for all the work you poured into everything and if you feel you're pushing yourself, you can still take as many breaks as needed. Bill L. Hal (talk) 00:13, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, about K. Mitsotakis, I want to bring this to GA status as well (no idea when). I have already transferred a lot of material from Papandreou to Mitsotakis article, but most of this material is about Papandreou. They overlapped considerably these two, and you can see the similarities in the writing. I need to find more resources where Mitsotakis is the protagonist, but not as much has been written about him, at least in english that I can access. It will take time. If you plan to add material in Papandreou article, keep in mind that GA status is temporary and maybe lost if the article grows large. If possible add the new material to its child articles, e.g., Foreign policy of Andreas Papandreou, Economic policies of Andreas Papandreou etc. A.Cython (talk) 22:40, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Bill L. Hal Thank you for your kind words. Indeed, it took a whole year since I started editing the article. But I am happy that there is some closure now. Though there are still few minor things to clean up. Eventually I want to work on the other Greek related articles, provided I find the time and enough reliable sources. A.Cython (talk) 22:10, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I saw that the Andreas Papandreou article passed the review, and while I feel very proud of the work done, all the credit goes to you and the gargantuan effort that you made to make it from a mediocre article to a GA. I feel it also gives some closure to a very important personality, since information about him will now be more easily accessible and understandable for those that wish to learn about him and his policies. Hope you get to enjoy your rest. Bill L. Hal (talk) 22:03, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- I left a note to the reviewer, but this will take time. Most likely he/she assessing the references, which can a daunting process for articles like these. A.Cython (talk) 15:06, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, I will await further information in the teahouse page whenever I check it again. On an unrelated note, do you see a result of the GA review for A. Papandreou anytime soon? Talk to you later. Bill L. Hal (talk) 07:22, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- FYI: I reverted the profile pictures for C. Simitis and K. Karamanlis, based on the argument that they looked unnatural. If there are any other pictures that require attention let me know. I will continue to engage the community regarding the AI upscaling to learn more things about it. It seems in the future this will be a frequent topic of debate.A.Cython (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2025 (UTC)
- Alright, I think those are reasonable courses of action. Mind you, I am also not knowledgeable on the subject, which is why I deferred to you in the first place. As for the last comment, I agree in principle, since this was, if I remember correctly, an issue with some celebrities having odd-looking portraits on their infoboxes on a similar premise: that the persons portrayed shouldn't look out of place or weird, unless deliberately shown (i.e. horror movie publicity stunts). I personally won't revert these edits just yet, but I look forward to your considerations. Bill L. Hal (talk) 18:28, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- I have already asked a guy at Wikicommons to double check the copyright justification for some of these pictures as find weird how navigates copyright; I am not an expert so asking someone that knows is preferable. I am also preparing a request for clarification at the Teahouse for AI upscaling since I have little knowledge about this issue and it is an opportunity to learn. After these two courses of action settle, then if the Simitis and Karamanlis portraits still there we could replace them on the grounds that are not suitable as portraits for the infobox citing reasons that we already mentioned, they look weird. My understanding one should choose portraits that are positive looking. A.Cython (talk) 18:08, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. Honestly, I do not think it is necessary, it is not like any of the pictures upscaled (bar maybe Papadopoulos' that was already replaced with the funny one with the sunglasses) weren't available anyway (to my knowledge). Also, for me, Simitis' infobox picture is borderline unsettling, it feels like it focuses too much on his facial characteristics in an odd shot, when the previously used one worked just fine in my opinion. Konstantinos Karamanlis' picture is, indeed, very weird looking, like the upscaling put way too much emphasis on the cheeks' characteristics. I would suggest reverting them to the previous pictures (provided they are still available with WikiCommons and whatnot) and raise the issue at Wikipedia:Teahouse/About as you proposed. Lend me your thoughts. Bill L. Hal (talk) 17:30, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
User Conduct Dispute
[edit]This is pursuant to the Resolving user conduct disputes.
I have concerns about your behavior with respect to Wikipedia:Casting aspersions.
You have said: The user Bogazicili persistent behavior to erase the existence of this article by pushing blatant WP:POV through mispresentation of sourced material by striping their context and advance his/her interpretation.
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I am trying to make article more NPOV, citing high quality sources, and debating since March 2025. You are free to disagree, but please see Wikipedia:Civility. Bogazicili (talk) 18:31, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
- Then act accordingly per WP rules. What you consider WP:NPOV may be considered WP:POV by everyone else. Also removing sources is not the way to go [2] since the url was easily fixed in secs. You claimed that you could not be found and it took seconds for me. What is going on!? A.Cython (talk) 18:38, 6 December 2025 (UTC)
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