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Nomination of Honor America Days for redirecting to United States federal observances#Other
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Tony Award for Best Orchestrations
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Category:Tony Award for Best Orchestrations has been nominated for deletion
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Nomination for merging of Template:Bot
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Question about User:Ahecht/Scripts/refresh
[edit]I have been trying to use User:Ahecht/Scripts/refresh to null-edit every page transcluding a template, and it never seems to work. Are you able to verify that it works as intended? I often try to use it on a /doc page to null-edit the template that transcludes the /doc page. I am able to use the script to null-edit all pages in a category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:42, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95 I just tested it on a random /doc page and it seemed to work. What exactly isn't working? Can you capture the output in your javascript console (HELP:CONSOLE) for a case where it doesn't work? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 11:59, 12 August 2026 (UTC)- I just tried to run it on Template:Election box new seat win no change/doc, a newly created /doc page. I get a small pop-up that says "Fetching transcludedin...", and then nothing. I opened the browser console, and I see a message but do not have the skills to interpret it, or even to copy or output the whole thing with all of its sub-messages:
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action: "query"
formatversion: "2"
generator: "transcludedin"
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titles: "Template:Election box new seat win no change/doc"
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<prototype>: function ()
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call: function call()
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constructor: function Function()
length: 0
name: ""
toString: function toString()
Symbol(Symbol.hasInstance): function Symbol.hasInstance()
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- I then updated my report of untranscluded templates, and Template:Election box new seat win no change/doc, showing that it is not transcluded despite my clicking the script link on that page. My hope is that clicking the script link on that new /doc page will null-edit its parent page so that the /doc page does not show up on the report of untranscluded template pages. I am using Firefox 140.12.0esr for Mac OS, if it matters. Other .js scripts work for me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Template%3AElection+box+new+seat+win+no+change%2Fdoc&namespace=&hidelinks=1&hideredirs=1 shows no pages that transclude that doc page. Therefore there's nothing for the script to do. I'll modify the script to be more explicit in these cases instead of just failing silently. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 15:28, 18 August 2026 (UTC)- Hmm, Template:Election box new seat win no change transcludes that /doc page. Unless it actually does not do so until it gets null-edited. That's some catch, that Catch-22. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:29, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- I just tried it at Template:Great Seljuk sultans family tree, and it seemed to work fine, FWIW. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95 I think it must be something funky going on with how {{documentation}} transcludes templates, as it's only showing up as a link, not a transclusion. A workaround would be to go to Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Election box new seat win no change/doc and run the script from there, which should work since it null edits all linking pages. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:40, 18 August 2026 (UTC)- I don't think it's that complicated. I null-edited the parent page (i.e. the template itself), and now "What links here" shows that the /doc page is transcluded. Which was what I was hoping that the script would do in the first place, but since the template hasn't been null-edited, the /doc page doesn't know that it is transcluded anywhere, so it can't null-edit the parent page. It's a bootstrap/chicken-and-egg problem.
- Now that the /doc page is transcluded, when I go to the /doc page and click the script, it correctly null-edits the parent template page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:50, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Hmm, Template:Election box new seat win no change transcludes that /doc page. Unless it actually does not do so until it gets null-edited. That's some catch, that Catch-22. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:29, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- Special:WhatLinksHere?target=Template%3AElection+box+new+seat+win+no+change%2Fdoc&namespace=&hidelinks=1&hideredirs=1 shows no pages that transclude that doc page. Therefore there's nothing for the script to do. I'll modify the script to be more explicit in these cases instead of just failing silently. --Ahecht (TALK
- I then updated my report of untranscluded templates, and Template:Election box new seat win no change/doc, showing that it is not transcluded despite my clicking the script link on that page. My hope is that clicking the script link on that new /doc page will null-edit its parent page so that the /doc page does not show up on the report of untranscluded template pages. I am using Firefox 140.12.0esr for Mac OS, if it matters. Other .js scripts work for me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:50, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
Feature request: Null edit this page
[edit]While I'm here, I wonder if it would be possible to add a useful feature. I often find myself creating documentation subpages for new, undocumented templates. My workflow is typically: command-click the "create" link to open a new tab, where I create the documentation. (At this point, using the "null edit transcluding pages" link would be great, but it doesn't work for technical reasons, per the above discussion.) I then close the new /doc tab and return to the template page, which I need to null-edit to incorporate the new /doc page (to get the /doc page off of reports and get the template page into any categories used on the /doc page). To do that, I have to click Edit, wait for the preview to render, then hit Tab on my keyboard twice, hit Return, and wait for the page to save. It would be great to have a "Null edit this page" link. How possible/easy would that be to add? (Note that purging, which I already have a link for, is not enough to recategorize a page, so that won't do the trick.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:57, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95 If you put the following in your Special:MyPage/common.js it should add a "Null edit" item to your tools menu that will null edit the current page and then reload it:
$(mw.util.addPortletLink('p-tb', '#', 'Null Edit', 'ca-null-edit')).on('click', (e) => {e.preventDefault(); new mw.Api().postWithEditToken({action: 'edit', title: mw.config.get('wgPageName'), appendtext:''}).done(() => location.reload());});I haven't tested it, but it should work. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:50, 20 August 2026 (UTC)- That works great! I tested it at {{AMS election box independent no change}} by adding a /doc subpage, re-running the Wikipedia:Database reports/Uncategorized templates report, seeing that the template was still on the report as expected, using the Null edit link, then running the report again and seeing that the parent page disappeared from the report as expected. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:16, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
Does not appear to null-edit transcluding pages when the transclusion is a redirect
[edit]I just used the script on {{Snowboard at the 2018 Winter Paralympics}}, which was recently moved, so all of the transclusions are redirects. The script told me that it had null-edited just one page, presumably the Template talk page. If I am interpreting the script's output correctly, is it possible to adjust the script so that it null-edits every page that transcludes a template, whether it is transcluded by a redirect or not? – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:03, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95 Yeah, that's out of scope for now. You'd have to run the script from the redirect itself. I could see it being a useful feature in the future. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 16:52, 20 August 2026 (UTC)- Pity. The null-edit link above will save me a little time, at least. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:18, 20 August 2026 (UTC)
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