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The wikilink you restored is a redirect to the Occam page. See [1]. Do not create circular links. If we had a page about the XC Programming language, then of course we could have a link to it. But we don't, and so we can't. We could delete the redirect and create a red link perhaps, but we can't create a blue link that is circular to the page it is being linked from. That does no one any good. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:44, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Of course there is a XC Programming Language page, I haven't noticed that someone had put a redirect in place of a valid page. MaD70 (talk) 21:15, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect point to the correct article now. MaD70 (talk) 21:20, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the article you just wrote, yes. Is that all your own work? Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 21:37, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see that you actually expanded the article before you tried your revert, but the link you added to the Occam page was to XC programming language and you had expanded XC Programming Language. Thus the link you reverted was still a redirect, but you have just spotted that and redirected the title you had (with correct capitalisation) to the one you expanded (with wrong capitalisation - See MOS:CAPS). So at least we are all now looking at the same thing - but I think that page has some severe issues. We can discuss those at the article talk page though. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, they put a redirect on talk page too! MaD70 (talk) 22:28, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you updated it now to link to the correct page. MaD70 (talk) 22:29, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded the original article with information from various web sources (for example this was useful), guided by what I remember of CSP, Occam and XMOS hardware. It's just a draft, I'm thinking how to add more references. MaD70 (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but that came from here: [2] - and the redirect was created in 2020. Note that the article, with history, is therefore at XC (programming_language), and where you have the new article is the wrong location. To preserve attribution, if we keep the article, we'll now need a history merge, as well as a page move. This will need administrator attention. Before requesting that, I am considering taking it to AfD for the discussion as to whether we should have the article at all. There is no point requesting a complicated history merge if we are not keeping the article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:34, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have no experience with how these processes are handled on Wikipedia; I only contribute occasionally. Frankly, the only reason I even bothered to expand the article was because I thought it had already passed the notability filter, given that it's been around since 2013. But evidently, that was because the various redirects left it under the radar. MaD70 (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Oh the current page of this link you mentioned is another redirect! I give up, I cannot confront this mess. MaD70 (talk) 23:03, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Not to worry. I don't want to get it summarily deleted. The redirects were made because it was not considered notable, but I don't see any discussion to that effect, so if we go to AfD it will be for a hopefully amicable discussion of sourcing. But there are quite a few research papers. I've pinged in Dbeef on the talk page who has a good knowledge of programming languages, I believe. They are an administrator so if we are all in agreement its worth sorting out, they'll be able to do that (or get someone who can do the history merge). It's a bit borderline because really the language is only of fairly narrow interest - but still, it can be notable in a narrow field. I'll leave it there for now. Dbeef can hopefully add a third perspective when they see the ping. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:17, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I should explain the history merge, as you may not have seen these before. It is the edit history of who wrote what on the former article. Under the terms of the Wikipedia license, there should be attribution for all the edit history, so your edits and the edits of the people back before 2020 all need to be there in the article history. The stuff you added today was based on the stuff that was there before 2020, so we should attribute the original author, but also you as the one who put it back. So all the history should be merged into the one primary article. I hope that makes sense. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:27, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]