User talk:Nyngwang

Please add a new section on the top, thank you!

how to edit wiki page title

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I'm trying to edit a page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_(formal), which has a problematic title. In short, all contemporary Wiki pages under the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Formal_languages "formal language", when with a pair of parentheses, are titled in the only format: "concept (formal languages)", e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_(formal_languages). But this page is the only page in "concept (formal)", which is not immediately clear to me (and I believe all others) what does it mean by the single word formal?" Since I'm new to wikipedia, I'm not sure what is the proper workflow to edit its title, and, in a sense that all contemporary Wiki pages that have one or more internal link to it for sure. (how do I know all these pages is another question...) Any advice? —Nyngwang (talk) 01:40, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Changing the title of an article is done with a move. But before changing the title of Symbol (formal), I suggest you discuss your idea of a different name on the article's talk page: Talk:Symbol (formal). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 02:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the link to the term I haven't learned. I will take a look at it. Nyngwang (talk) 02:10, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps ask here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing - this is talk page of Computing WikiProject, and the users subscribed to this page are perhaps specialised in this area. Gryllida (talk, e-mail) 02:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I will try this approach. Nyngwang (talk) 02:10, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

missed edit summary

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I just made an edit on a page, and I ended up failed to provide an edit summary when I tried to insert a newline by Shift-Enter inside the field of the form. What should I do in this case to edit/provide an edit summary for it?

Sincerely,

N.W.

One way this can be handled is to do a dummy edit (add a space or something else that won't affect the appearance) and put your desired edit summary on this edit.

In your case, you have a non-dummy edit that you need to make. Your edit introduced an external link to a Wikipedia article that you need to turn into a Wikilink. You can cover both edits with one edit summary. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

On looking at it again, I see that formal language has already been linked on that page, so you just need to remove the external link stuff and put in the plain text to avoid overlinking. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:53, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In my case, I intended to link the term to a specific section of the internal page, since I assumed that it would be helpful for a reader to review the formal definition. (details: It's a bit tricky that the original version used a definition that is not consistent with the one I linked. To avoid similar mistakes that might happen in the future edits, I decided to do it) Is this allowed, then? In any case, I will update the syntax to make it an internal link. Most importantly, thanks for your helping! — Nyngwang (talk) 05:33, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I missed what your intention was. Disparate definitions can cause problems, so anything you can do to make it clear is a good idea. Yes, an internal link to a section is definitely allowed. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I didn't (and I should) include it in my first comment. On the other hand, I was thinking about whether replying directly on my talk page would send you a notification on my update (moreover, is it polite). I did see the hint on the current page, where it read "This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.", and I was not sure which one is the best practice to let you know that I made a reply. If there is anything I should improve, please let me know. Nyngwang (talk) 06:03, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In my case, I simply watch every recent edit I've made for a while. You can use the templates like {{ping}} to raise a notification. It's better to keep a conversation going in the place where it was started unless there's a good reason to change. The help template raises a flag (I often refer to it as a 'bat signal' but that's a cultural reference that isn't always understood), which quite a few people get notified of or watch directly. But it's often a one-shot, you get one response from one helper. The Teahouse and Help Desks arguably have greater visibility and a greater number of editors who answer and you can get multiple answers. And they're a little more open to more general questions, while we try to keep the help templates restricted to 'how to edit' questions. But pick one place to ask your question and wait for an answer. Don't shotgun the questions in multiple locations - that's seen as wasting the volunteers' time. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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