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Hi Panamitsu. You have provided feedback to me a couple of times recently, the most recent on the Talk page of the NZDF article. First let me say that I really admire the polite and erudite way that you give feedback. In my experience, your level of courtesy is quite rare on wikipedia. Clearly, I could learn from that.

However, I don't find your responses very helpful when it comes to the content of the dispute. For instance, in your most recent comment, you wrote, "Because the content is disputed, the onus is on you (ie me) to demonstrate that the text complies with the policies in question."

Here is the essence of the dispute. Traumnovelle 25 October 2025 wrote: "Its the implication in any readers head upon seeing such a sentence, this is explicitly what WP:SYNTH covers."

I replied:

"No its not. Let me put it even more simply for you.

You can justifiably remove statements that are not backed up by reliable sources.

You should not remove statements that are backed up by reliable sources - because you think that statement implies something other than what it actually says. It only becomes synth when an implication is explicitly stated (as if it were a fact) in the article - without a reliable source to back it up.

If wiki was based on what editors think a statement implies (even though a reliable source has been provided), anything on wikipedia could be deleted because an editor took offence to it - thinking it implied something else. Wiki is not based on vague implications in the readers mind. it is based on statements that are backed up by reliable sources. You need to get your head around this point."

If the onus is on me, how am I supposed to demonstrate that the text complies with the policies if experienced editors, such as yourself, do not indicate which way they are leaning on this issue. If Traumnovelle simply ignores every comment I make, input from other editors is required to suggest whose perspective is more in line with wiki policy. Apologies for my blunt reply but I tought you wanted to be helpful. Kiwimanic (talk) 21:24, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I haven't actually had a proper look at the sources to check if the content is original research or not, so I don't actualy lean on any side in this dispute. Politics is not something that interests me so I'm afraid I probably won't look much into it. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I really need your help with this please. You say the onus is on me to solve this dispute - which is about wiki policy rather than politics. I am unable to resolve it unless experienced editors like yourself are willing to assist by examining the meaning of the wiki policy in dispute and coming down on one side or the other. Kiwimanic (talk) 03:24, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I'm back for the day. I meant I'm not interested in articles about politics, including drug foundations, but I'll take a look. ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:39, 28 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help with this. I really appreciate your calm, logical (and intelligent) approach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwimanic (talk • contribs)

DYK nomination of I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy

Hello! Your submission of I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:45, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You write about interesting topics. I had a good laugh! Schwede 66 18:37, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks haha. ―Panamitsu (talk) 21:59, 24 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Memorial Park, Tauranga

On 26 November 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Memorial Park, Tauranga, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the name of Memorial Park in Tauranga, New Zealand, was chosen in order to qualify for a subsidy? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Memorial Park, Tauranga. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Memorial Park, Tauranga), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Road safety in New Zealand

Hi Panamitsu. You tagged this article with {{Close paraphrasing}} but didn't provide an URL. Do you happen to remember what this article is paraphrasing from? — Tenshi! (Talk page) 00:14, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tenshi Hinanawi here are two examples from the lead. The text "New Zealand ended 2024 with its lowest per capita road death rate in over 100 years, according to provisional data" is a direct copy from this source which says "New Zealand ended 2024 with its lowest per capita road death rate in over 100 years, according to provisional data." While not as bad, the lead also says "In 2024, the provisional number of road deaths in New Zealand for the year stands at 289" which is similar to this source which says "The provisional number of road deaths in 2024 stands at 289". I'll add these examples to the talk page. ―Panamitsu (talk) 01:27, 4 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Greening the Rubble

On 6 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Greening the Rubble, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that people green rubble? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Greening the Rubble. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Greening the Rubble), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

— Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru you have been cursed because you're now on my talk page (even if by bot) and will be forced to suffer through some of my useless facts.

I thought that this greening the rubble hook was quite short so I decided to use Python to find the shortest did you know hooks that have ever been on the main page. Here are the top five with the length in characters (excluding the "that", punctuation and wikimarkup):

(12): "... that zero is even?"

(21): "... that people greened rubble?

(23): "... that metal can grow whiskers?"

(28): "... that infant teeth emerge in pairs?"

(28): "... that greeneyes are hermaphroditic?"

Below are extra fun facts because I'm a loser. Did you know...

"... that 'green' appears in two of the five shortest did you know hooks?"

"...that Wikipedia's did you know section never used to have spaces after the ellipses?"

―Panamitsu (talk) 02:52, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to remember an even shorter one. I think it didn’t have the “that”. Theleekycauldron, was that your hook? Schwede 66 03:10, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

wadn't mine, but i think you have the shortest hook exactly backwards :)

... that?

theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 03:13, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Haha that is really funny. I missed that one because I used the regex "^that(.*?)$" (after removing the ellipses) which didn't work with that hook because of the square brackets for the link.

I wonder if a hook that is just

"...?"

is possible or if it would be rejected. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:11, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

go for it!! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:31, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now we are talking. There’s a challenge. I would support it. Schwede 66 16:16, 6 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Santa statue (Auckland)

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Santa statue (Auckland), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Docmoates (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I declined the speedy, with the edit summary "This is a list of sources for an article on a potentially notable cultural icon in Auckland, and is appropriately in draft space."-Gadfium (talk) 22:43, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:52, 17 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added a photo for good measure. Schwede 66 05:21, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. ―Panamitsu (talk) 09:04, 18 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year

Cheers for the talk page message. You have a great Christmas and New Year as well and all the best for 2026. Daveosaurus (talk) 23:50, 23 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, you too. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:59, 23 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fireworks in New Zealand

On 24 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fireworks in New Zealand, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a petition to restrict the sale of fireworks in New Zealand included 80,000 paw prints? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fireworks in New Zealand. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fireworks in New Zealand), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 00:03, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A postcard

Happy Holidays!

Happy holidays! Your "creepy" winking Santa article had me remembering a time when I was a little kid, my family introduced the Santa Claus idea to me. I was terrified. I asked why they were letting a stranger sneak into our home in the middle of the night. They told that Santa had special powers and nobody could stop him. I did not sleep a wink. He might just be a creepy idea? Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 19:24, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Rjjiii for the interesting story! Happy holidays and a happy new year to you! ―Panamitsu (talk) 20:55, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Season's greetings

Thank you for the message on my talk page. It was a pleasant surprise to receive this, and most appreciated. You have made a huge contribution to the encyclopedia in the past year and I acknowledge your extraordinary commitment and hard work in supporting this great collaborative project. I wish you all the best for the New Year._Marshelec (talk) 19:37, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Marshelec. The same can be said about you! I especially enjoyed working with you on "wikifying" the Geology and geomorphology of Kahurangi National Park article and also reading the Ashburton Clock Tower article which you had created. Cheers ―Panamitsu (talk) 20:58, 24 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Santa statue (New Zealand)

On 25 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Santa statue (New Zealand), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a website has ranked a giant Santa statue as the world's most "unintentionally creepy Christmas ornament"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Santa statue (New Zealand). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Santa statue (New Zealand)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 00:03, 25 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 16,272 views (678.0 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of December 2025 – nice work!

GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:29, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2026!

Hello Panamitsu, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2026.
Happy editing,
Abishe (talk) 15:34, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 15:34, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Abishe, happy holidays ^_^ ! ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:07, 26 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Anti–Elon Musk bumper stickers

On 28 December 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Anti–Elon Musk bumper stickers, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that some people have placed anti–Elon Musk bumper stickers on their Tesla cars to avoid vandalism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Anti–Elon Musk bumper stickers), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 00:03, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Panamitsu!

Happy New Year!

Panamitsu,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Volten001 ^☎ 05:15, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Volten001 ^☎ 05:15, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Volten001, Happy New Year! May 2026 be prosperous! ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:58, 1 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Milk token

On 2 January 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Milk token, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that milk tokens were introduced to reduce the theft of milk payments? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Milk token. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Milk token), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.

Dclemens1971 (talk) 00:03, 2 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and ...

Thanks for the support for the SPI. I had to chuckle though, because, eg, Special:Diff/1326461695. Nurg (talk) 03:16, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Oh... Sorry haha. Maybe I should strike out that comment because I feel a bit silly now! ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:26, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mind either way. In fact, I wouldn't be bothered if you just reverted yourself, on the basis that you made a mistake. Up to you, AFA I'm concerned. Nurg (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, just did. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:00, 5 January 2026 (UTC)[reply]