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Your submission at Articles for creation: P.D. Shah (October 24)

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Tatupiplu'^talk 07:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion of Draft:P.D. Shah

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The page Draft:P.D. Shah has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from http://www.rudraveena.org/PDShah.html. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: P. D. Shah (May 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Nomadicghumakkad was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I don't see why an artist going to US and performing at various colleges will make him notable.

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Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 10:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: P. D. Shah (May 18)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Nomadicghumakkad was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:P. D. Shah, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 19:09, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:P. D. Shah

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:02, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unreferenced content (June 2024)

Hello, I'm Bri. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Shamsuddin Faridi Desai, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:52, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have just seen that Shamsuddin Faridi Desai was deleted. Please help to restore this article. Shamsuddin Faridi Desai is an important figure in Indian Classical Music. The fact that he recorded the CD for India Archive Music (IAM CD1078), puts his status with all of the other top Indian artists who recorded there. Please help restore this article, it is important and relevant to world music. Thank you for any help with this Vtranz (talk) 02:58, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Shamsuddin Faridi Desai

The article Shamsuddin Faridi Desai has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not enough in-depth coverage to show they pass WP:GNG.

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 14:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I have just seen that Shamsuddin Faridi Desai was deleted. Please help to restore this article. Shamsuddin Faridi Desai is an important figure in Indian Classical Music. The fact that he recorded the CD for India Archive Music (IAM CD1078), puts his status with all of the other top Indian artists who recorded there. Please help restore this article, it is important and relevant to world music. Thank you for any help with this. Vtranz (talk) 17:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Onel5969,

Please help me restore this important article. Shamsuddin Faridi is a giant among Rudra Veena performers. His status is certified by the fact that he recorded for the prestigious label, India Archive Music. That label only records the top rated Indian classical musicians. https://indiaarchivemusic.com/collections/all Vtranz (talk) 21:19, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please familiarize yourself with the general notability guideline. You need to provide citations to independent prose coverage of significant depth in secondary sources in order to demonstrate a subject's notability. Having been recorded by a particular label is not a substitute for this requirement. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:23, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, note that complaints like this one that include personal attacks are unlikely to get the response you are looking for. The appropriate way to ask for revisions of a deleted article is to make a request at WP:RFUD. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:32, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Vtranz. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Shamsuddin Faridi Desai, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 14:20, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Rosguill,

I have a Masters degree in Music, from California State University Long Beach. I have been trained to document music related topics. I am the creator of www.rudraveena.org, a non-commercial, information portal. If you look at that site, I document all Rudra Veena players, without favor. My only interest, is to provide important information on wikipedia. wikipedia does include articles on other Rudra Veena players. I don't understand how Shamsiddin is not allowed. In the 20th century, the three main Rudra Veena players, were Shamsuddin Faridi Desai, Asad Ali Khan, and Zia Mohiuddin Dagar. Accusing me of having a conflict of interest, is just unjustified. Accusing me of personal attacks is also wrong.

Again, I request that someone undeletes the article on Shamsuddin Faridi Desai. Thank you. 71.212.120.75 (talk) 15:38, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Rosguill,

Just so you know, I just went on to ChatGPT and asked 'Who is Shamsuddin Faridi Desai?'

ChatGPT knew all about this important figure in Indian classical music. If the reason

that my article was deleted, was due to 'notability', then you should take a look at ChatGPT.

https://chatgpt.com

Then, please restore the article on Shamsuddin Faridi Desai'. Thank you. Vtranz (talk) 23:25, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I request a second opinion on this. I don't believe on editor should be able to deprive the world of important, valid information. Please reply, so I know you have read this request. Vtranz (talk) 14:38, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Rosguill,

One of the Rudra Veena players that you do allow articles for, is Bahauddin Dagar. I have contacted Bahauddin and asked him if Shamsuddin Faridi Desai should have a wikipedia article. He replied that there should be an article. He said, if the editors do not believe that Shamsuddin meets the notability requirements, they should listen to his Makar CD. With the support of Bahauddin Dagar, I am going to restore the article. Vtranz (talk) 14:55, 10 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Shamsuddin Faridi Desai for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Shamsuddin Faridi Desai is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shamsuddin Faridi Desai until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:07, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that the people discussing deleting the article Shamsuddin Faridi Desai, should include an expert on the Rudra Veena, Bahauddin Dagar. Bahauddin told me, that if the people who are intending to delete the article have any doubt of Notability, they should listen to Shamsuddin's Makar CD. Please contact Bahauddin. There is a contact form on his website, https://mohibahauddin.com/ Vtranz (talk) 20:44, 15 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]