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Good articleMiiverse has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 27, 2025Peer reviewReviewed
June 28, 2025Good article nomineeNot listed
August 18, 2025Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

Clones

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I don't feel that the page should include discussion of continuations of Miiverse. Most of them garnered limited usage, and were very small compared to Miiverse. (talk) 17:06, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's not a bad idea to briefly mention them, but we don't need to go in depth into them. There are dedicated wikis to clone lore and while I agree with you that most didn't get much traction, there are examples like Closedverse, which had over 8000 registered users and Rverse which is still active to this day. I'm not saying we should mention every clone and who made them, I'm saying we could have an "Aftermath" section which basically says attempts at remaking this were made with the most popular among them being Closedverse or Rverse. Mintphin (talk) 14:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rverse

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I feel that rverse needs a mention here. The rverse framework is the largest of the Miiverse clones and should be placed here as the continuation of Miiverse. Clonemii and Uiiverse aren't as popular as rverse. They have Uiiverse has been discontinued and Clonemii has been less popular due to rverse. Just saying, rverse should be listed as the official clone framework.

Note: I am in no way affiliated with rverse.
I Am Llanfairwyll 00:50, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tense issues

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I'm not sure why all of a sudden this has become in issue with someone after years of interpreting MOS:COMPNOW to have the first mention of the program be in present tense. And I'm not sure why User:Loytra has decided to not follow the basic protocol of WP:BRD, which says that if your edit is reverted you don't just keep changing it back because you think you're right, but you begin a discussion.

But that said, MOS:COMPNOW has been used on any article discussing technology or software for many years now. It says that Always use present tense for verbs that describe genres, types and classes, even if the subject of the description (e.g. program, library, device) no longer exists, is discontinued or is unsupported/unmaintained. I believe that the User:Loytra is misinterpreting the part of MOS:TENSE that says Generally, use past tense only for past events, and for subjects that are dead or no longer meaningfully exist. Use past tense for articles about periodicals no longer produced, with common-sense exceptions.. I can see and understand where that user interpreted that part to include this article. But that part is talking about people and physical objects, not software.

So I ask, per WP:BRD that User:Loytra revert his own edit and then discuss on this talk page. You shouldn't get to have your interpretation of the guideline in the article simply because you are more willing to have an edit war than someone else. JOJ Hutton 10:41, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum- Four days were given to respond to this discussion. Editor was tagged and has been online since this post was created. User:Loytra has had ample time to respond and has decided to ignore this discussion. Since the previous version had been in place for years, per WP:BRD, the article should go back and reflect the longstanding version, and not the version that User:Loytra has decided it should be. Editors do not get a Veto on an article and change a longstanding version, simply because they want to edit war. So please follow WP:BRD. User:Loytra, your next edit in regards to this article should be this talk page, not to revert the article back, per WP:BRD.--JOJ Hutton 11:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise for taking a few days to respond but I think it's unfair to claim I've "decided to ignore this discussion"; just because I've been online doesn't mean I've had the time nor energy to sit down and properly respond to this discussion — it hasn't even been a week since you made the original comment. I additionally think it's unfair to claim that I made my changes "simply because [I] want[ed] to edit war"; WP:BRD isn't binding policy and I didn't violate WP:3RR. However, I do commend you for engaging with this with such civility. It's rare to find an editor that sticks to edit warring policies so dutifully and I really thank you for doing so. I apologise for not being the one to leave a message on the talk page in the first place and I wish to follow your example in the future.

Anyway, as for the original subject of this debate: I agree that my edits were wrong and were not in line with MOS:TENSE. However, I still think the lead sentence is confusing and implies that Miiverse is an active service. Maybe rephrasing it to read "Miiverse is a discontinued social network..." would be an okay compromise? Loytra (talk) 12:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
First off, thanks for the Barnstar, I appreciate it. Sorry about how I may have worded the previous message. You may not have been ignoring it wholeheartedly, but I was concerned that the message wasn't being received.
The best solution to the tense issue would be to say "Is" first then go to "Was" afterward. There are other ways to accomplish this goal, but this is only one of them. Thanks, if you have another solution that would be fine too.--JOJ Hutton 13:16, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

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Miiverse

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Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • Watch peer review

I've listed this article for peer review because I wanted to get some experience with bringing an article to GA/FA status, and this is an article I've made major contributions to recently. I want to know what suffices for an article to be carried to GA status within the scope of WP:VG, if there are any more sources that should be added, extra information, more images, errors to correct, etc.

Thanks, Surayeproject3 (talk) 23:41, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Z1720

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After a quick skim, I added two "citation needed" tags. Once those are resolved, I think this is ready for WP:GAN. If you are looking for more sources, I suggest Google Scholar, WP:LIBRARY, archive.org, or your local library system. Z1720 (talk) 19:59, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720 I just tackled the tags. The first tag about the E3 communities, I copied a citation for one of the sources since it mentions those being in the archive. The second tag about nostalgia for the platform, I added a new source. If that resolves everything than we can probably close the peer review and I'll apply for WP:GAN. Surayeproject3 (talk) 21:25, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surayeproject3: Instructions on how to close PRs is at WP:PRG. I recommend using the script. Z1720 (talk) 23:53, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

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Unsuccessful. λ NegativeMP1 22:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Miiverse/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Surayeproject3 (talk · contribs) 00:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 01:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'll take a look at this article shortly. λ NegativeMP1 01:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Prose structure

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  • Right off the bat, I think that the lead should be restructured a bit. Here's more specific feedback regarding this.
    • The article immediately states that Miiverse was a social network for the 3DS and Wii U, though later in lead says it was available for a web browser. The lead sentence knowing this would be better off as "Miiverse was a social network developed by Nintendo that operated from 2012 to 2017.", with platform information likely being the second sentence.
    • The second and third paragraphs should be merged into one, in my opinion. I would also migrate the information regarding the cancelled smartphone versions into that paragraph. And also add a brief summary of the platform's development. So basically, leave the first paragraph as a description of the app's features itself, and leave the second paragraph as a history of it's development and release.
    • Citations are not needed in the lead per WP:CITELEAD.
  • I think that Features should come before history and that Features should be renamed to Overview.
  • The updates section is bordering on WP:PROSELINE and should be better summarized. I also think that it could be merged into History as a sub-section.
  • The redesign section could also become a sub-section of History.
  • Same with shutdown.
    • The fact that Nintendo decided to not put Miiverse on the Nintendo Switch feels more appropriate for the History section as a precursor to the shutdown.
  • Note for now that I have chosen to not critique any grammar choices, as even if I were able to find any, the structure is more important.

Images

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  • The only two images in the article are the service logo and a screenshot of the app itself. These are obviously fine.

Sources

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  • References 12 (Nintendo Insider) and 38 (nintendoeverything.com) are not reliable sources per WP:VG/S, and should be removed from the article. The former especially is a very big problem as an entire paragraph of the article is sourced to it only. Another source, thenerdmag.com (reference 50), also seems to have dubious reliability.
  • Reference formatting is very inconsistent. Some sources include the full website name, while others use the website URL, while others use neither.
  • 51 and 52 are duplicates.
  • There are a lot of primary sources being used in the article. This isn't an issue per say as it's mostly used for development info or updates, but WP:PRIMARY still applies. I'm not sure how much weight needs to be given to things if it can only be cited to primary sources.
  • So far, I have Spotchecked sources 11, 13, 36, 43, 49, and 51. They all look fine.

Comments

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@Surayeproject3: I'm going to be honest here, I haven't done a full review of this article yet (no grammar nitpicks) but I feel like it's going to need some major restructuring to be at a GA level. With the fact that an entire paragraph would need to have its sourcing substituted, and major section restructuring will probably be necessary, I feel as if the improvements needed just barely falls out of the scope for a GAN review. I hope that this doesn't discourage you, as what you have put together so far is good and the article is well researched with the reliable sources the article does have and everyone starts somewhere. There is potential here and I'm glad to give it another look at a later date - whether it be from you asking me for feedback on a venue like my talk page, or even reviewing it again if you renominate. But I can't imagine these improvements could reasonably happen in a GAN review without entering a WP:FIXLOOP. For now, I am quickfailing this nomination. λ NegativeMP1 22:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA review

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Passed. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:33, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Miiverse/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Surayeproject3 (talk · contribs) 13:25, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: OpalYosutebito (talk · contribs) 01:02, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to be bold for this one, as this is my first time reviewing a good article. Comments will be coming shortly! - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:02, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar/copyediting

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Right off the bat, some minor copyedits that can be done per WP:MOS, among other criteria:
  • "Super Metroid" should be italicized, as it's the title of a game.
  • during times when moderation was less active. The wording seems a little redundant to me. I believe when moderation was less active. sounds a little better...
  • at 10:00 pm on PST → at 10:00 pm PST
  • This isn't part of typos I noticed, but the "Legacy" section begins with a one-sentence paragraph. Please either merge it into the next paragraph or expand on it.
Also, two of the references (38, 43) are duplicates. I tagged them as such - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:10, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OpalYosutebito I've made all the changes except fixing the reference duplicates. For the "Legacy" section, I moved the first sentence to be in front of the last one. Let me know if there's anything else I should change! Surayeproject3 (talk) 01:27, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll fix the duplicate references shortly - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:28, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if it's just me, but Mii avatar and Mii character(s) seem kind of redundant, since Mii is a noun and avatar/character(s) are also nouns. Would Mii be better? Also, Wii no Ma should be italicized, too. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:39, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Mii part was just a suggestion, since the reader will need some context to understand what a Mii is - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:41, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So should I keep it as is or remove "avatar/character"? I think it's fine if we remove it. Surayeproject3 (talk) 01:42, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We can remove it, though I can ask the Discord server for a vote of sorts... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:47, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed some grammar errors, though I found another redundancy: focus on being about games → focus on games. focus on gaming could also work, too - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:19, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, please keep italicizing game names, such as New Super Luigi U - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:19, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
a leak found text within Wii U firmware system update 5.5.2 with text suggesting → a leak found text within Wii U firmware system update 5.5.2 suggesting ("that suggested" could also work). PS, it's getting late in my area - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:22, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Likes tab is hidden → Likes tab became hidden ("was hidden" might work a little better; either way, past tense is preferable in this case) - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:34, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OpalYosutebito Did you already cover these changes? Surayeproject3 (talk) 03:10, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, I just point out errors as I read the article - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:16, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok sounds good, I made the changes. Surayeproject3 (talk) 03:38, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • A month before shutdown, on October 5 → On October 5; less wordy
  • Youtube → YouTube
  • post shutdown → post-shutdown
  • which was required to use Miiverse → which were required to use Miiverse; I'm assuming the "was" refers to the Nintendo Network IDs, right?
  • X (formerly known as Twitter) → either X or Twitter; a minor nitpick but it should either be X or Twitter for consistency/brevity, though the wikilink should still be included. I'm leaning more towards X because it's used again in the article - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 23:48, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Over the course of its lifespan, Miiverse would periodically receive updates that made quality of life changes enhancing user navigation or added new features. → Miiverse periodically received updates that enhanced user navigation or added new features. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 00:15, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"several developers" such as? Kondo? Mizuki? A bit of clarification would be helpful - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 12:56, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Satoru Iwata was already introduced (in the "History" section of the article as "Nintendo's president at Miiverse's launch"). You don't have to "re-introduce" him by his full name and/or title; subsequent mentions of Iwata should just call him Iwata for brevity - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 00:02, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

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I'm currently checking the sources. Right now, I'm just checking to make sure there are no dead/usurped urls. I'll try to find more secondary sources as I delve deeper into the article, as that was the main reason why it failed the first GA review. Primary sources aren't necessarily a bad thing, but the "History" section could use some extra coverage, as I'm seeing a lot of "Iwata asks" being cited... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:56, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I might transfer over any potentially useful references to the main talk page under a {{ref ideas}} template - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:59, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article I found compares Miiverse to other gaming communities and social media websites, which could tie in with the "Legacy" section somehow - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 18:37, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/blog/32543/miiverses-rocky-start-needs-to-level-out says that Miiverse was initially unstable, as it was down for quite a while in late 2012. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 18:42, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This might help: https://www.polygon.com/2012/11/7/3615646/nintendo-says-the-wii-us-miiverse-is-an-empathy-network/ - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 12:54, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if you need more coverage on the Miiverse archive: https://www.vice.com/en/article/nintendos-miiverse-is-dead-but-someones-archived-everything - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:33, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OpalYosutebito I added three of the sources, I don't need the Vice article as the information there is already covered for the most part. I also did the "several developers" suggestion as well. Surayeproject3 (talk) 23:34, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know! I'll look into it ASAP, thanks! - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 23:35, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I'm looking for new sources, I found out that certain games had special messages that would pop up warning users about the eventual shutdown of Miiverse. This is one for Super Mario Maker:

Accompanying the ending of the Miiverse service, new comments can no longer be added and existing comments can no longer be viewed on uploaded courses. Courses can still be uploaded, played, and evaluated.

— https://www.dualshockers.com/nintendos-miiverse-nintendo-3ds-wii-u-closed

You don't have to copy-paste the whole message, but it would still be interesting to read about the short time before the platform went defunct.
Also, this article offers some more insight into what set Miiverse apart from other gaming communities - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 23:35, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Made the grammar and source changes. I didn't add the Nintendo Insider article, although if there are other recommendations I can add it in alongside them. Surayeproject3 (talk) 01:02, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The DualShockers article also mentions an update that launched in the summer of 2015, which granted users the ability to take and share screenshots of games. This feature was already used for the PS4 and XB1 - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:06, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is not accurate, as the platform already allowed this on Wii U from launch. Here's a Youtube video showcasing it [1]. Surayeproject3 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Ignore the posts I made that linked to the DualShocker article, as per WP:VGRS, it's not really reliable - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:22, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surayeproject3 also, I believe it might be worth mentioning how Miiverse features were used for over 100 games to give an idea of just how important the platform was to the Nintendo community at the time - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:43, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I found some academic/scholarly sources that mention Miiverse in some way, and some even analyze the platform:
Are these source suggestions done to satisfy the WP:RS requirements for the Good article review? I didn't know Miiverse was used in scholarly publications! Surayeproject3 (talk) 03:06, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OpalYosutebito I added the sources, though one citation has a Harv error. Can you go ahead and help me fix it when you get the chance? Surayeproject3 (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Sorry for the late response. When you posted last night about the RS requirements, it was already around 11 pm in New York. I'll get to work on fixing the Harv error ASAP - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 15:26, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for adding the sources! I believe the last standalone sentence of the "Legacy" section could be better integrated into the first paragraph (which talks about retrospectives) of the section, if that makes sense - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 15:31, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For sure, I rewrote that paragraph to include that sentence and make it flow a bit better. Is that everything needed for the GA review? Surayeproject3 (talk) 15:41, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm checking the sources again. You did a great job with adding stuff, but the first paragraph of the "History" section still has numerous primary sources ("Iwata asks"). Again, primary sources aren't a bad thing, but I highly recommend looking for more secondary sources discussing Miiverse's development - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 16:15, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that I haven't been able to find many secondary sources that talk about Miiverse's early development, most of the information was included in the Iwata Asks interviews. I found this blog post based on a Kotaku article, but that's about it: https://www.mediaboss.net/social-networking/nintendo-explains-their-wii-u-miiverse-social-networking-concept.php?utm_source=chatgpt.com. Surayeproject3 (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That blog post is unreliable, as it's most likely AI-generated. If you're unable to find any significant coverage on the early development of Miiverse, you might want to trim/summarize the first paragraph of the "History" section and merge it with the second paragraph. I might ask for a second opinion once you're done - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 16:44, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just made the changes, I removed two of the interviews and merged the paragraphs together. Surayeproject3 (talk) 16:52, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Aside from that one paragraph, the article looks pretty good. I'm pinging @NegativeMP1 (the first reviewer) for a second opinion - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 17:02, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But yeah, all the other sources fall under Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources, to my knowledge. Great job so far! :D - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 17:16, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! By the way, I don't know if you use this script, [2] but I downloaded it just now and it color-codes sources based on their reliability. The current listings show good results! Surayeproject3 (talk) 17:47, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure I use that script. That's how I was able to find out that the blog you linked was AI-generated - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 17:55, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Finally, more early coverage!

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Hope is not lost! I was made aware of this search engine, which combs through reliable sources for WikiProject VG. I was able to find wuite a bit of coverage of Miiverse's early development by typing in key words like "Miiverse" and "Hatena". I hope these help! - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 13:35, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the "Iwata asks" interview can be part of a separate "Further reading" or "External links" section if you don't plan on using it anymore - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 13:36, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some potentially useful secondary sources to use for the early history/development section:
Thank you! I'll be sure to get to these before the end of the day today. If NegativeMP1 doesn't respond, should that be good for the review once the sources are added? Surayeproject3 (talk) 21:37, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, yes. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:38, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm planning on getting to the article tomorrow, it's a bit late where I am and I'm tired. Will see how it goes from there. Surayeproject3 (talk) 01:44, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I haven't been feeling well, either. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 19:42, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@OpalYosutebito I just went ahead and added three of the above sources. I didn't use the fourth one as it contains an overview of the WaraWara Plaza and nothing specifically related to Miiverse. I think the article should be good now since it balances out the primary with the added secondary. Surayeproject3 (talk) 12:04, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will check the article in a couple of hours. There's something I need to do irl - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 12:18, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the wait. I checked the history section for any overreliance to primary sources, and it looks like there's a nice blend of primary and secondary! For now, I'm going to pass it as it looks great to me. - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:31, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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