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- It is just the Cyrillic spelling of Morocco it should remain. Dominic-SS-Olofsson-Tuisku (talk) 12:36, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
Sahara
[edit]UN voted on full control of the sahara now the image here is out dated show the true map of Morocco that reflects this. 205.178.19.51 (talk) 13:20, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- That's a factually incorrect statement. M.Bitton (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Are you seriouslt saying that its incorrect they literally agreed on referendum yesterday you are super biased if this is the case and not a goodlook.https://apnews.com/article/un-western-sahara-morocco-peacekeeping-force-0a07d389db0e88c35beeb5f0462ea221 205.178.19.51 (talk) 15:28, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Agreeing with the point made before you are extremly biased in your talking and now youre going to put your account in risk due to the fake information you are spreading across wikepedia. it was worldwide known that Morocco came to a referendum regarding the Sahara with the UN which is a worldwide agreement. Dismissing it and calling it a factually incorrect statement is going to bring you no where. No evidence was provided to support your claim and now you are stating that it is incorrect. Check any article and you will see. Waffine (talk) 15:40, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)- Yes, the IP's claim is factually incorrect. You would have known that if you bothered to read what the latest resolution is about. M.Bitton (talk) 15:56, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- If you read properly and intelligently, you will see the keyword "Morocco's autonomy". This frames and constrains the solution to autonomy under Moroccan sovreignty, that is to say the autonomy of Sahraoui under the Moroccan state. Moroccan Autonomy as a basis is a sine qua condition. The 11 member votes support the basis and hence affirms the integrality of western sahara as an autonomous region within Moroccan unitfied territory.
- Read, Mr Bitton. 41.140.45.13 (talk) 15:12, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, the IP's claim is factually incorrect. You would have known that if you bothered to read what the latest resolution is about. M.Bitton (talk) 15:56, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- It is factual. I have been observing you throughout a number of articles in wikipedia...you will be tagged and pursued for misinformation and propaganda 160.89.43.213 (talk) 21:09, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Moroccan Sahara
[edit]Fix the picture of the land because now western sahara is officially moroccan and you should add that in the information as well. 160.177.194.137 (talk) 14:10, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Same as above: that's a factually incorrect statement, and therefore, there is nothing to fix. M.Bitton (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- I believe it should be fixed as Morocco controls over 80% of it so the correct map would be showing 80% of the Sahara under Moroccan land and the other 20% under Polisario land. This type of map showing who actually controls what is more realistic and is used a lot. Lariuxey (talk) 20:09, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 November 2025
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"Change the Morocco map and also the land it controls now to conform with the UN worldwide agreement on the Western Sahara now that it will be given entirely its control to Morocco now so it is acurately updated" Waffine (talk) 15:45, 1 November 2025 (UTC) Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done: You assertion is factually incorrect. M.Bitton (talk) 15:48, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Do you have any evidence of it being factually incorrect? Waffine (talk) 15:54, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)- Do you evidence it is correct? You do not prove data based on the lack of counter-evidence; you prove data with evidence. – LuniZunie ツ(talk) 15:55, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/31/un-approves-resolution-supporting-moroccos-claim-to-western-saharaA short read would show the move was approved sorry if I come as aggressive english isnt my best language. Waffine (talk) 15:56, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)- You're all good; I did not mean to come of as aggressive either. Was responding quickly. I'll let M.Bitton check out the provided link. – LuniZunie ツ(talk) 15:57, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Hey youre all good too. Waffine (talk) 15:58, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- That source doesn't support the IP's factually incorrect assertion. Furthermore, we have access to the UN's source (that you're welcome to read). M.Bitton (talk) 16:01, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
I see now that the Sahara isn't under Moroccos entirely control yet but the map should currently reflect the control that they currently have because reading into the article provided I see how it isnt the full thing but agreeing with Morocco's view on it so later on it will allow them to adopt the full land back. However the map provided for the Morocco is a bit biased also no atleast show the part that Morocco "currently" has control of. Waffine (talk) 16:06, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)- That's WP:OR. Nothing has changed (Morocco is still considered as the occupier). M.Bitton (talk) 16:13, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
That is not that though the research was done via online websites that state only the facts. If morocco is (considered as the occupier) you should be able to acknowledge their claims on the sahara within this website and not show it completely divided since that itself would be factually incorrect since morocco maintains full control over Laayoune and Dakhla in which those two cities cannot be seen in the map provided. I am trying not to be super biased towards morocco like you can allow the SADR since on paper they actually exist but they do exist to the East of the Berm and showing the map that was provided would be biased so I am urging a more neutral stance. Waffine (talk) 16:17, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Blocked sock. M.Bitton (talk) 22:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)- You're referring to something else. We are showing all of Western Sahara because that what Morocco claims (this how it's done in similar articles). M.Bitton (talk) 16:20, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- That's WP:OR. Nothing has changed (Morocco is still considered as the occupier). M.Bitton (talk) 16:13, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- You're all good; I did not mean to come of as aggressive either. Was responding quickly. I'll let M.Bitton check out the provided link. – LuniZunie ツ(talk) 15:57, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do you evidence it is correct? You do not prove data based on the lack of counter-evidence; you prove data with evidence. – LuniZunie ツ(talk) 15:55, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
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Change"Morocco,[c] officially the Kingdom of Morocco,[d] is a country in the Maghreb region of North Africa. It has coastlines on the Mediterranean Sea to the north and the Atlantic Ocean to the west, and has land borders with Algeria to the east, and the disputed territory of Western Sahara to the south, occupied by Morocco since 1975."
To "Morocco,[c] officially the Kingdom of Morocco,[d] is a country in the Maghreb region of North Africa. It has coastlines on the Mediterranean Sea to the north and the Atlantic Ocean to the west, and has land borders with Algeria to the east, and Mauritania to the south." 160.176.2.169 (talk) 21:47, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Not done: No Reliable Source provided Untamed1910 (talk) 21:51, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
Area of Morocco
[edit]Why doesn't the article show Morocco's total area when Western Sahara is included in it? I understand it's an emotive and controversial topic and might set a bad precedent e.g Crimea and Russia but the realities on the ground cannot be ignored as Morocco has almost complete control over the territory. Thanks Neon Blueskin (talk) 19:46, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
Map of Morocco is now factually incorrect and outdated
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Regarding the map
[edit]Hello I was just wondering instead of using this map of morocco where the amount that is occupied by morocco is unknown you use a map showing how morocco occupies the territory west of the berm and the polisario front owns that east of the berm. This would help diminish the confusion that would be had while also getting rid of any of the complaints by both side due to this being a true border that the Un does monitor. Example how Russia and Crimea is you know? ~2025-40343-15 (talk) 20:50, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
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(line 4) Change "and has land borders with Algeria to the east, and the disputed territory of Western Sahara to the south, occupied by Morocco since 1975. " To "and has land borders with Algeria to the east, Mauritania to the south and Ceuta and Melilla (Spain) to the North " as at least 80% of the Western Sahara is under full Moroccan control and considering the UN Security Council Resolution 2797. And Morocco shares a land border with both Ceuta and Melilla which are Spanish territories in Northern Morocco.
(line 13) Change Berber to Amazigh as second official language as Amazigh is the correct term used locally in Morocco.
Change Berber to Amazigh the correct self-designation and modern neutral term, consistent with current academic usage and Morocco’s constitutional recognition. Lariuxey (talk) 21:12, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- I have detailed why the changes needs to be done
- -Morocco–Spain border (Ceuta & Melilla): Spanish enclaves Ceuta and Melilla share land borders with Morocco; these are the only land borders between the EU and Africa
- -Amazigh is the correct term and official language in Morocco: Moroccan Constitution 2011 Lariuxey (talk) 16:29, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the Berber/Amazigh thing, so wont be making that change. However, the land borders is trivially correct with recent developments in the south.
- Is there any reason now why the change above, (without the language change as I note) should not be made? (I have personally crossed the Ceuta border in both directions in the past.) - Walter Ego 17:29, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to adding Ceuta and Melilla to the land borders. Day Creature (talk) 17:34, 29 December 2025 (UTC)
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Hello, I am wondering can this map can be shown to be able to be more informative for the current situation regarding Morocco and the Western Sahara. I feel that the map should be changed from the light green that is the entirety of the Western Sahara territory to a dark green on the part that Morocco does occupy (be it illegally or not), and a lighter green to the part that the Polisario Front occupies. It could say claimed but not occupied or something along those lines. That would really draw a better picture in ones mind because it took a little bit of digging for me to find the true map of Morocco and Western Sahara you know? AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 01:01, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- in addition there should be the two options for sizing to best help reflect this change which would be the regular area of morocco excluding the western sahara territories that it occupies and then ( I am copying and pasting this from another article within Wikipedia) 710,850 km2 (274,461 sq mi) includes the Moroccan-administered parts of Western Sahara, which is claimed by the Polisario Front as the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. This would be helpful because the Sahrawi Arab republic also has this same thing so it would be fair for Morocco to have the same also too. AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 01:30, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tbhotch™ (CC BY-SA 4.0) 08:16, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ahh i understand now
- Change the map with the Undisputed territory of Morocco Western Sahara, a territory claimed and partly occupied by Morocco to Undisputed territory of Morocco and occupied parts of Western Sahara, and parts of the territory claimed but not occupied by Morocco. Change the sizing from 446,550 km2 (172,410 sq mi) to 446,550 km2 (172,410 sq mi) and 710,850 km2 (274,461 sq mi) includes the Moroccan-administered parts of Western Sahara, which is claimed by the Polisario Front as the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic<----
- I mean it as this that was the change to be as specific as possible without being wordy since the map doesnt really give much info on what morocco does occupy within this territory. Like having the map highlighted dark green for the parts it does control and its own land and then it being light green for the parts that it does not control would be more specific you know. This would be more helpful to those who are more interested into what specific parts Morocco or the SADR does control by just taking a little glance. AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 19:16, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry if the format i used isn't the best to what changes need to be made i'm a little new to all of this/ AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 19:18, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- We are showing all of Western Sahara because that's what Morocco claims. This how it's done in similar articles (the occupied and claimed parts are always light green). Those who are interested in the
specific parts
of Western Sahara can click on the link and learn everything they need to know about it. I disagree with the other proposed changes. M.Bitton (talk) 19:21, 1 January 2026 (UTC)- The polisario front also claims the entirety of the western Sahara no and it is shown the exact same way i describe so what would then make it different had it been shown the same way as Morocco i am only going off of what I am seeing from the SADR's article which is the exact way i envisioned for it to be shown as? AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 19:30, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry if i am coming off as a bit rude i promise that isnt my true intentions btw. AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 19:34, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- Ahh you know what i went through articles like the way you described and youre right thats my bad im a little new to this as you can tell lol. Oh so the sizing of the country would be the undisputed territory of Morocco rather than get into all of that stuff with the western Sahara? AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 19:43, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- That's right. M.Bitton (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you sir i was a bit confused you clarified it good :) AlbanyParkChicago (talk) 00:52, 2 January 2026 (UTC)
- That's right. M.Bitton (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
- We are showing all of Western Sahara because that's what Morocco claims. This how it's done in similar articles (the occupied and claimed parts are always light green). Those who are interested in the
