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Spätzle are not bavarian
[edit]Spätzle are in fact not bavarian or explicitly from Baden-Württemberg, they are rather a Swabian type of noodle. Swabia being a region as large part of Baden-Württemberg and a small region in Bavaria. So I would propose just writing that they are Swabian noodles. SpaetzleConnaisseur (talk) 22:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Origin: Source 7 does NOT support the claims it makes. It is a false source.
[edit]"The general consensus among food historians is that pasta originated somewhere in the Mediterranean region [7]" is what the article says.
The source is a paper titled:
CAN NOODLES BE MADE FROM MILLET? AN EXPERIMENTAL INVESTIGATION OF NOODLE MANUFACTURE TOGETHER WITH STARCH GRAIN ANALYSES
The text at best claims that noodles cannot be made by stretching millet repeatedly.
This is no way is any evidence that pasta came from the Mediterranean. It does not say so. There are many arguments needed before such a broad claim. 71.125.63.103 (talk) 00:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- You seem to be looking at the wrong source. This citation points to a National Geographic article which does say, "the dish probably took hold in Italy as a result of extensive Mediterranean trading in the Middle Ages." Dan Bloch (talk) 17:21, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Concept of "noodles" in China
[edit]In the article, the following is stated, uncited: "there is no single unifying concept or terminology for 'noodles' within Chinese culture." I don't believe this is true, as noodles are known collectively as 麵, which is an equivalent concept. I would like to see this idea cited if possible, or removed as misinformation. ~2025-32874-00 (talk) 10:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think you are only half right. I don't speak the language but according to this wiki article [1] - the Chinese call wheat based noodles as 麵 or pronounced "miàn" in Mandarin, and they call all other noodles made from other non-wheat starches as "fěn" (粉) or "fun". So to be more accurate, they do indeed have general collective terms and there are two - Mian and fun. I think the article needs to reflect the Chinese have two collective terms for their noodles. JaredMcKenzie (talk) 13:31, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- @~2025-32874-00 After doing research, I verified your claim through multiple sources and it's correct. They all repeat that miàn (面) is indeed the overarching term for dough-based noodles in China . But in English, we also refer to their rice and cellophane based noodles as noodles too. Tho Chinese have different term for starch slurry noodles which is fěn (粉). I have clarified all this in the article's summary.[2][3] Thank you for raising this. JaredMcKenzie (talk) 12:19, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- (Was asked on my user talk page as a Chinese speaker.) For the record, that sounds about right to me too, and good job on finding a source for it! Would be great if you could copy this information to the "Historical variations" section and the Chinese noodles articles as well. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for replying on this thread Aaron. :) When I have time, I will definitely consider taking that history to the other article too, tho with some rewriting for uniqueness. Am also considering using this source (on its egg noodles chapter) to extend info.[4] ;) JaredMcKenzie (talk) 21:06, 29 November 2025 (UTC)
- (Was asked on my user talk page as a Chinese speaker.) For the record, that sounds about right to me too, and good job on finding a source for it! Would be great if you could copy this information to the "Historical variations" section and the Chinese noodles articles as well. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:05, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
Unsourced or original research?
[edit]The article mentioned consensus of food historians agree the origin of noodles had first occured in the Mediterranean. Its cite is National geographics[5] and Nat Geo does mention the Mediterranean, but it doesn't say that. If you read it carefully, it instead says food historians doubt it originated in pre-Roman era Italy and instead believe pasta likely first arrived in Italy through the result of extensive Mediterranean trading during the Middle Ages (13th century). I think a past editor possibly didn't read that NAT geo article carefully enough (WP:SYTH). In the meantime, I corrected the edit to show what Nat Geo actually said about the Mediterranean. [6]JaredMcKenzie (talk) 12:56, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
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I want to edit this page Charles 091 (talk) 12:25, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. - Umby 🌕🐶 (talk) 12:37, 22 January 2026 (UTC)