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view · edit Frequently asked questions To view an explanation to the answer, click the [show] link to the right of the question. Q1: Isn't this article incorrect where it says Armstrong and Aldrin "stayed a total of about 21½ hours on the lunar surface"? (No.) They landed their spacecraft on July 20, 1969, at 20:18 UTC, and took off again the next day at 17:54 UTC. Therefore, they spent a total of 21 hours and 36 minutes on the surface, most of this time inside the spacecraft. Their moonwalk outside the spacecraft lasted just over 2 hours and 31 minutes. Both facts are recorded accurately in the summary. Q2: The date for the Moon walk is wrong; it should be July 20. (No; it was July 21, UTC) The dates of the Apollo 11 Moon landing and Moon walk are often reported as July 20, 1969, using time zones of the United States. However, the Moon is not within any Earth-bound time zone, and to avoid regional bias, the WP:WikiProject Spaceflight community has established a consensus (discussed here) to use UTC. The date and times of the landing and EVA were July 20, 1969, 20:18 UTC and July 21 at 02:56:15 UTC, respectively. Therefore, we use July 20 as the date of the landing and July 21 as the date of the EVA. Please don't "correct" the EVA date to July 20.

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"Human" vs "Crewed"

I don't see why this would need to be discussed, but some users have disagreed with changes without any obvious reason. The change is in the description that writes "crewed Moon landing". I prefer "human Moon Landing" because humans who land on the Moon might be space tourists as well, and therefore passengers rather than crew members. There weren't any moon tourists so far, but "crewed" in those descriptions puts too much focus on the occupation and not on the fact that humans landed on the Moon. Again, I don't see why this needs to be discussed, since "human [spaceflight]" is as much allowed as "crewed" per the WP consensus as written in NASA's guidelines which WP supports. Glasfaser Wien (talk) 10:29, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Crewed" was NASA jargon. Military style language to distinguish missions (more jargon) with and without people on board. We aren't limited to that approach. I like "human". HiLo48 (talk) 10:36, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And btw, if the term "human" isn't allowed for whatever reason, the pages Human spaceflight and List of human spaceflights should be moved then. Glasfaser Wien (talk) 10:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since none of the accusers have answered so far, I've moved the above mentioned pages, even though in fact the consensus is that "human" should be allowed. If it isn't, it should be made clear before anyone is accused again of allegedly not following the consensus. Glasfaser Wien (talk) 16:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think crewed is more commonly used in most context. There is such a thing as "human spaceflight" which is not "crewed spaceflight" but with respect to missions, "crewed" is the term which is used as a substitute for the deprecated "manned", especially by NASA, see here for an example. While we are not limited to what NASA does, it does make sense to adopt the terminology of the sources. And all eleven crewed Apollo flights are Featured Articles, and have passed through review processes involving a number of people who are knowledgeable about Apollo, as well as some who are not. Incidentally, you'd get more and faster response if you pinged people. They may not be watching this page as indeed I am not. Wikiproject Spaceflight might be a better place to bring your concern as that is watched by a large number of people.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:49, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NASA is using "crewed" because the astronauts they fly and flew to the Moon are indeed their crew. NASA itself never flew space tourists so it's unnecessary for them to keep an eye on the expression. Space tourists are flown by Virgin Galactic and Blue Origin so it would be wrong for those two companies to talk about "crewed spaceflight" only (Virgin Galactic could have done this only prior to Virgin Galactic Unity 22, albeit in WP's list the flight is listed as "fully crewed" indicating WP has a different definition for "crew(ed)" which includes passengers). Roscosmos and SpaceX occasionally fly space tourists (or private people) as well. Hence, a majority of space companies flies not only "crews" but passengers as well. Since NASA isn't the only space agency in the world, talking about "human spaceflight" would have been better, but WP's definition obviously includes passengers. Glasfaser Wien (talk) 06:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about the official definition of "crew" and how it's interpreted in non-english speaking countries, but as a non-native English speaker, I'm used to read its meaning (and translation for my native Language, portuguese) as any occupant of a vehicle, or even any group of people at all.

I mean, reading "human moon landing" sounds even funny to me, because it's as if we could have other species landing, as if we were in some kind of sci-fi setting where it needed to be specified that were humans landing there, and not another species. That might made sense when we still sent dogs or champies there, but fortunately this don't happen anymore (I hope).

So, using "crewed" in the sense of "with people on board" (regarding if they are crew or just passengers), even if just as a consensual international jargon ignoring setting aside its dictionary meaning (if it makes sense for other countries too) just sounds more logical to me. Vinicius Yglesias (talk) 04:34, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In English, "crew" means persons other than passengers. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Time of moonwalk is wrong

6 hours after landing is not 20:56 but 02:56 UTC 37.60.79.90 (talk) 21:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. Someone just changed it claiming it to be a typo. They were incorrect, I've changed it back. Canterbury Tail talk 22:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First man on the Moon

wouldn't the first man to step on the moon be whoever was holding the camera to videotape it? Tnt50 (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NASA had the foresight to mount a camera on the lander. Acroterion (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"At 02:51 Armstrong began his descent to the lunar surface. The remote control unit on his chest kept him from seeing his feet. Climbing down the nine-rung ladder, Armstrong pulled a D-ring to deploy the modular equipment stowage assembly (MESA) folded against Eagle's side and activate the TV camera." Martinevans123 (talk) 19:43, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Apollo TV camera was mounted on the Apollo Lunar Module (LM) descent stage's modularized equipment stowage assembly (MESA). Positioning the camera in the MESA made it possible to telecast the astronauts' first steps as they climbed down the LM's ladder at the start of a mission's first moonwalk/EVA. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:12, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I suggest including a reference to the documentary film, "The Space Movie", within the section "Films & documentaries". It was produced in 1979 by Tony Palmer at the request of NASA, to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon landing, with music of Mike Oldfield.

The film is relevant in popular culture (both cinematically and musically). See the following link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Space_Movie

 Not done, yet. Yes, it's The Space Movie (1980). Maybe here, but probably belongs at Apollo 11 in popular culture first. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"The Moon Landing" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect The Moon Landing has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 June 14 § The Moon Landing until a consensus is reached. मल्ल (talk) 15:28, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Featured picture scheduled for POTD

Hello! This is to let editors know that File:Earth, Moon and Lunar Module, AS11-44-6643 c.jpg, a featured picture used in this article, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for July 20, 2026. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2026-07-20. For the greater benefit of readers, any potential improvements or maintenance that could benefit the quality of this article should be done before its scheduled appearance on the Main Page. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you!  — Amakuru (talk) 12:06, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apollo 11 astronaut Michael Collins, aboard Command Module Columbia, photographed Lunar Module Eagle as it returned from the lunar surface on July 20, 1969. Eagle, piloted by astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, the first Earthlings to walk on the Moon, is shown aligned with their distant home planet. Photograph credit: Michael Collins Recently featured: Archive More featured pictures

The photo credit would go to Michael Collins, not the uploader. Thanks for selecting this historic image. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:23, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]