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Siedlungspolitik

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Hi, I'm wondering why I can't find information on Wikipedia about the NS "Siedlungspolitik". This was a program in the mid- to late 1930s to settle parts of the urban populations in new suburban communities with organized community structures integrated into the "Gleichschaltung" policy, and with gardens around each house to allow people to grow their own food during the war that they knew was coming. I used to live in the Konradsiedlung in Regensburg, which was built as one of these and still has a "Siedlerverein" (or at least it did in the 1990s), with a little man who knocks on people's doors and tells them off if they're not growing potatoes properly, and you can't help noticing that all the roads are named after towns just outside the German borders that the Nazis wanted to "bring home" (heim ins Reich) - my favourite is a square still called "Danziger Freiheit". Anyway, I was just doing some editing at Gummiinsel, which is a terrible translation of the German article, and found I had no-where to link "Siedlung" in its specifically NS sense. I'm not sure that the half-paragraph on the NS period at Settlement archaeology is on quite the same topic. Am I missing something, or is this an article we should be creating? A quick Google search finds sources like this [29] or this [30] but there must be much better ones. Doric Loon (talk) 16:33, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

De-wiki seems to also be absent an article on this specifically, though the word ("settlement policy") is used a lot in more modern contexts, mostly Israel. I find a search for "NS" "siedlungspolitik" is fruitful. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 03:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jpgordon Yes indeed, but the Israeli situation is a little different. My question wasn't really asking for sources, because I'm sure I could trot down to the library and find good ones. The question is, do we want to be writing this up on Wiki, and if so, where? (And is there a historian specialized in the NS-period who is working here who would be competent to do it - I could try it, but not if there are people already here who are more expert.) Doric Loon (talk) 09:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevance of François Furet's book as a source

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The penultimate paragraph in the "Position within the political spectrum" category mentions that Hitler praised Stalin and Stalinism on multiple occasions and was satisfied that Stalin had purged Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Radek, going so far as to desire an alliance with the Soviet Union. Footnotes (71) and (72) refer to François Furet's book "Passing of an Illusion: The Idea of Communism in the Twentieth Century." I have this book in its original French edition. The source Furet indicates for each of these points is Hermann Rauschning's book "Gespräche mit Hitler," which has been discredited for several years by historians as an unreliable source, Rauschning having presumably invented everything. I recommend deleting this paragraph. Cleonacio (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 December 2025

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Please change "During Hitler's rise to power, it was frequently called Hitler Fascism and Hitlerism." to blank. The term "Hitler Fascism" is not sourced and does not appear in the body of the text. The term "Hitlerism" appears twice in the body of the text as a term coined by historians, no evidence it was used during Hitler's rise to power. The lede of a WP article needs to be accurate. ~2025-43423-41 (talk) 09:00, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now, but leaving open. Which source are you referring to? "Hitlerism" is mentioned further down in the article, and makes a little more sense to retain. "Hitler fascism" does not, and shouldn't be mentioned without a source. But I'd still like regulars here to weigh in before changing that. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:34, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to have missed my point. There is no source for "Hitler fascism" in the article, and it should be removed. Yes or no? Telling me that "Hitlerism" is mentioned in the article after I have already stated that it is mentioned twice is not helpful. It is mentioned twice as a term used by historians after WW2. The article states that the term was used during Hitler's rise to power - no source states that, so that should be removed. Yes or no? What we appear to have here is a WP editor in the past has pushed a POV without sourcing. ~2025-43423-41 (talk) 23:54, 28 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The term "Hitler Fascism" was used a non-zero number of times; whether "frequently" is appropriate is a fair question. Ngrams shows "hitler fascism" as maybe 2% as frequently as "hitlerism", and "Hitlerism" about half as frequently as "Nazism". I'd strike "frequently". --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:17, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ngram doesn't even register "Hitler Facism" for me, though. FMRadio :3(chat | edits | she/her) 04:31, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]
yeah. Hitlerism v. Nazism is interesting; "Hitler Fascism" is background noise. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 06:17, 29 December 2025 (UTC)[reply]